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tallgeese
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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However, the list you put forth has more to do with preparation prior to an event and leading to the event itself. The OODA loop has more to do with how decisions get made during the ongoing event. It takes into account things prior, but only to the extent that they effect decision outcomes at the point of violence (in this case).

It's also wider in focus to consider the arena of conflict. Observation takes in the entire surrounds, not just the individual combatants. In most circumstances, this can effect choices one makes greatly (ie. cover, concealment, egress)

It's also important to note that of all the ways we can accelerate our loop, by Boyd's own admission and other significant warriors who've studied his work, Observing becomes highly important in the whole equation. Generally speaking, the one who sees the enemy first, wins. This is important when we talk about self defense when we look at how important awareness is in the whole process.

Howe spends quite a bit of time in his first book talking about observation and how to shorten the loop here while still maintaining the value of observation.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tallgeese wrote:
Howe spends quite a bit of time in his first book talking about observation and how to shorten the loop here while still maintaining the value of observation.


That would be a good skill to work on. Seeing and calculating faster would be very beneficial. Definitely a book worth getting now.
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