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The Pred
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:29 pm    Post subject: Raising money to purchase.. Reply with quote

Hi all,

Question to anyone that has their own school. Did you already have money available to open your own place. Or did you purchase from your own instructor and or franchising the name? Second I've been doing a bunch of research and is it easy to get an SBA loan?
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bushido_man96
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you plan on getting a small business loan, you'll need to go into it with a business plan. You'll need to show what your plan is: building location, class schedule, rates you'll charge students per month, estimated expenditures, how you plan to generate revenue (especially to cover paying off the loan), what your start-up fees may be, and how soon you can estimate that you will start turning a profit (again, a point-of-interest from someone loaning you money).

In a business like an MA club/school, you'll want to demonstrate that you hopefully have a group of students ready to go, willing to be paying dues from the jump. You'll have to demonstrate how that will generate income, and how you plan on growing to increase your income. Advertising, etc.

You'll want to probably draw all this up in a very nice, presentable notebook that shows how you plan to make this work. You may want to speak with your financial advisor if you have one. They may be able to help with this.

Best of luck! Please keep us posted.
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The Pred
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bushido_man96 wrote:
If you plan on getting a small business loan, you'll need to go into it with a business plan. You'll need to show what your plan is: building location, class schedule, rates you'll charge students per month, estimated expenditures, how you plan to generate revenue (especially to cover paying off the loan), what your start-up fees may be, and how soon you can estimate that you will start turning a profit (again, a point-of-interest from someone loaning you money).

In a business like an MA club/school, you'll want to demonstrate that you hopefully have a group of students ready to go, willing to be paying dues from the jump. You'll have to demonstrate how that will generate income, and how you plan on growing to increase your income. Advertising, etc.

You'll want to probably draw all this up in a very nice, presentable notebook that shows how you plan to make this work. You may want to speak with your financial advisor if you have one. They may be able to help with this.

Best of luck! Please keep us posted.

Thank you.
Yeah, if anything I'd purchase the dojo im already at. I already have some ideas.
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DWx
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where abouts are you based as it will differ from region to region?

I'm coming up on one year of my school so fairly new compared to others on KF. I found it easier to start by renting a room a couple of nights a week in a local sports club as if it all went wrong I had less to lose. Purchasing a building or taking on a loan is a long term commitment so you have to be sure it will work out.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I opened my dojo with my own money from my savings account. No family members...no help from my Sensei...no help from any living soul except myself...and I wouldn't have had it any other way.

As far as the SBA, that will depend on ones financial strength or weakness across the board. Just remember that lenders just don't loan money without some strict approval/reject protocol in place; some lenders are much more relaxed then others...and they're out there, just have to find them.

When it comes to the SBA, it's not personal, it's business, and they will do anything and everything to protect their bottom line, than yours!!

Good luck and much success!!



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The Pred
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DWx wrote:
Where abouts are you based as it will differ from region to region?

I'm coming up on one year of my school so fairly new compared to others on KF. I found it easier to start by renting a room a couple of nights a week in a local sports club as if it all went wrong I had less to lose. Purchasing a building or taking on a loan is a long term commitment so you have to be sure it will work out.


NJ which ironically is the worse place to start a business.
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JazzKicker
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Pred wrote:
DWx wrote:
Where abouts are you based as it will differ from region to region?

I'm coming up on one year of my school so fairly new compared to others on KF. I found it easier to start by renting a room a couple of nights a week in a local sports club as if it all went wrong I had less to lose. Purchasing a building or taking on a loan is a long term commitment so you have to be sure it will work out.


NJ which ironically is the worse place to start a business.


I don't know if it's the worst, I got a lot of support from the Small Business Development center when I had a go at an engineering business years ago, but it depends on what town you're in.

A friend of mine did have a rough time with zoning and permitting when he tried to open a club in a nearby township. He moved to a better spot in his own township, then expanded to a bigger space.
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