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renketsu
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 5:43 am    Post subject: Re-breakable boards Vs wooden board etc Reply with quote

Hi,

Just wondering if anyone can give me personal experiences of breaking proper wooden boards / tiles etc against breaking the re-breakable boards and any info that would be useful for testing students of various grades.

I personally have never broken before so am looking for your honest opinions!

Thanks,
Andy.
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John G
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wooden boards, tiles etc although more expensive are a lot more forgiving than re-breakable boards. If you don’t hit re-breakable boards directly on the joint line you end up skinning your knuckles or feet.

I feel using re-breakable boards for practice or tournaments is a cost effective and standardised method to demonstrate power breaking, but when it comes to grading, use the real thing.

There’s nothing quite like the buzz one gets when one brakes the first set of wooden boards or stack of tiles at a grading. Smashing through plastic somehow doesn't feel the same.



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John G
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy,

I don’t know if this helps but try to get hold of a USTF (United States Taekwon-do Federation) or a ITFNZ (International Taekwon-Do Foundation New Zealand) Syllabus or Techniques hand book. In them are guides to destruction (power breaking) requirements.

E.g. taken from the USTF 9th gup through 1st Dan Black Belt Syllabus (1996).

Breaking

Starts at ---6th Gup (low green belt)---
Men Feet: 1 board
With : front snap kick

Women/juniors Feet: 1 board
With : side piercing kick

---5th Gup (high green belt)---
Men Hands: 1 board
With : downward or inward or outward strike with knife hand.

Men Feet: 2 boards
With : front snap or side piercing or back piercing kick

Women/juniors Feet: 1 board
With turning or back piercing kick

---4th Gup (low blue belt)---
Men Hands: 1 board
With : front punch with the forefist or side strike with the back fist or inward strike with the reverse knife-hand.

Men Feet: 2 boards
With : flying front snap or flying turning kick

Men Feet: 3 boards
With : flying side piercing kick

Women/juniors Hands: 1 board
With : downward strike with knife hand.

Women/juniors Feet: 1 board
With : flying front snap or flying turning kick

Women/juniors Feet: 2 boards
With : flying side piercing kick

---3rd Gup (high blue belt)---

Men Hands: 2 boards
With : downward or inward or outward strike with knife hand.
Men Feet: 2 boards
With : twisting or stepping hook or reverse hook kick

Women/juniors Hands: 1 board
With : downward or inward or outward strike with knife hand.

Women/juniors Feet: 1 board
With : twisting or stepping hook or reverse hook kick

Peewees Feet: 1 board
With : front snap or side piercing kick

---2nd Gup (low red belt)---

Men Hands: 1 suspended board (speed breaking)
With : front punch with the forefist or inward strike with the reverse knife-hand or inward strike with the knife-hand or outward strike with the knife-hand.

Men Feet: 2 boards
With : flying twisting kick.

Men Feet: 3 boards
With : mid-air 180 back piercing kick

Women/juniors Hands: 1 board
With : front punch with the forefist or inward strike with the reverse knife-hand or inward strike with the knife-hand or outward strike with the knife-hand.

Women/juniors Feet: 1 board
With : flying twisting kick.

Women/juniors Feet: 2 boards
With : mid-air 180 back piercing kick

Peewees Hands: 1 board
With : downward strike with the side fist or outward strike with the side fist

Peewees Feet: 1 board
With : flying front snap or flying side piercing kick

---1st Gup (high red belt)---

Men Hands: 2 non-supported boards
With : inward strike with the reverse knife-hand or inward strike with the knife-hand or outward strike with the knife-hand.

Men Feet: 3 boards
With : front snap or turning kick

Men Feet: 4 boards
With : side or back piercing kick

Women/juniors Hands: 1 non-supported board
With : inward strike with the reverse knife-hand or inward strike with the knife-hand or outward strike with the knife-hand.

Women/juniors Feet: 2 boards
With : front snap or turning kick

Women/juniors Feet: 3 boards
With : side or back piercing kick

Peewees Hands: 1 board
With : front strike with the elbow

Peewees Feet: 1 board
With : front snap or turning kick

Peewees Feet: 2 boards
With : Back piercing kick
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G95champ
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wood is eaiser to break than plastic. LOL.

However the plastic boards cost a bit more in the long run you save money because you get several hunderd breaks out of them.
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John G
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

G95champ wrote:
Wood is eaiser to break than plastic. LOL.


Now I didn't say they were eaiser just more forgiving.

You can break a wooden board in any number of places (preferably in the middle), the same can’t be said for re-breakable boards. If your targeting is slightly out (and im lucky to see the damn things let alone hit them) you end up doing some damage to your attacking tool.

G95champ I know what you mean, some instructors do things on the cheap and you end up trying to break through semi dressed green boards. We leave those ones for the big guys or the smart as*es.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there is always concrete too
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