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Kyle Bryant
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going for my 1st Dan Black Belt in Shotokan this Summer... before i can test or do the 2 pretests i have to do some paperwork.... i need to know which karate style doesn't use the practice of Katas, plz answer!

[ This Message was edited by: Patrick on 2002-04-14 14:30 ]

[ This Message was edited by: kyle bryant on 2002-04-17 16:48 ]
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Tobias_Reece
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kyle

Many styles of karate don't practise kata. This is purely because the instructors have thought that kata is 'useless'.

It's quite funny really - my instructor and I went to teach a seminar in Surrey a few weeks ago. They didn't practise kata, or bow, or yoi, or do ippon kihon kumite......the list goes on.......

So in conclusion, many 'new', or 'modern' styles of karate dont practise kata.

I can't think of a 'true', or 'traditional' style that doesn't practise kata, but i could be wrong - AnonOne help me out here!!!!!

Cya

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SaiFightsMS
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have never heard of a tradional Japanese/Okinawan karate style that does not practice kata. It is usually renegade clubs who do not belong to associations or claim to be a tradition based style that would not do kata.
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Chris from CT
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2002 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On 2002-04-14 17:23, SaiFightsMS wrote:
I have never heard of a tradional Japanese/Okinawan karate style that does not practice kata.


I havn't either, but if you are looking for "martial arts in general" that don't use forms then Judo and Ju-Jitsu and Aikijujitsu would fall under that catagory.

Originally, Hapkido is another one that doesn't use forms, although it's Korean it does have roots in Japan. The founder of Hapkido, Choi Yong Sul didn't teach forms. Any forms taught today in Hapkido were included by his students after and/or their students after them.

Hope this helps & good luck on your test, Kyle!.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2002 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with Sai and Chris on this one..
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2002 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually there are some judo forms. And some akido schools have froms as well.
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Morgray
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2002 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daido-Juku is a good example of a Japanese style (with roots in Kyokushin) that doesn't have katas.
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G95champ
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2002 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boxing and wrestling are martial arts that dont use kata.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2002 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"So in conclusion, many 'new', or 'modern' styles of karate dont practise kata"

I'm just wondering... did the original "okinawa-te" have kata? OR was it something that was imported from China, and incorporated into "China Hand".

Sumo would be a Japanese martial art without kata... not karate but since people are mentioning boxing and like...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2002 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

During a time in the history of Okinawa when martial things were illegal kata's were devised to preserve the practice. They were performed as court and folk dances.
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