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pinklady6000
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tempest wrote:
Escaping all submission holds is an art in and of itself that has 3 primary cornerstones.
1. Delay the onset of damage
2. Disrupt and remove the controlling body parts.
3. Move to change your position relative to the attacker.

For example, escaping the RNC: Grab the arm they are attempting to put under your neck and drop your chin to delay the attack and stop the choke from forming.

Buck and roll to one side in an attempt to either face the ceiling, or at least have the choking arm on top.

Get rid of the top hook to free one of your legs.
Finally, turn over and end up likely in the persons guard, but NOT being choked.

thank you, for all that info, tempest. just need to try these things out.
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pinklady6000
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tempest wrote:
Escaping all submission holds is an art in and of itself that has 3 primary cornerstones.
1. Delay the onset of damage
2. Disrupt and remove the controlling body parts.
3. Move to change your position relative to the attacker.

For example, escaping the RNC: Grab the arm they are attempting to put under your neck and drop your chin to delay the attack and stop the choke from forming.

Buck and roll to one side in an attempt to either face the ceiling, or at least have the choking arm on top.

Get rid of the top hook to free one of your legs.
Finally, turn over and end up likely in the persons guard, but NOT being choked.


here's another one: push your head up into the opponents armpit.
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Tempest
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinklady6000 wrote:
Tempest wrote:
Escaping all submission holds is an art in and of itself that has 3 primary cornerstones.
1. Delay the onset of damage
2. Disrupt and remove the controlling body parts.
3. Move to change your position relative to the attacker.

For example, escaping the RNC: Grab the arm they are attempting to put under your neck and drop your chin to delay the attack and stop the choke from forming.

Buck and roll to one side in an attempt to either face the ceiling, or at least have the choking arm on top.

Get rid of the top hook to free one of your legs.
Finally, turn over and end up likely in the persons guard, but NOT being choked.


here's another one: push your head up into the opponents armpit.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it takes the pressure off your throat and onto your neck. it reduces the leverage your opponent can exert.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok.
If so, it may buy you a few seconds to do the rest of the escape that I mentioned. I am extremely doubtful of it stopping the choke altogether. If your opponent has deep hooks and is hunting under your chin, you need to get rid of the hooks and get out of there.
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