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ps1
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Location: NE Ohio
Styles: Chuan Fa, Shotokan, JJJ, BJJ
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I've done rolls in a ton of different ways, including all those shown.
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Kuma
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JusticeZero
Black Belt
Joined: 02 Apr 2005
Posts: 2166
Location: AK
Styles: Capoeira Angola
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If it helps, I flip all over the place and do handstands and the like when I go down, and I would never somersault straight over like that either
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Tzu-Logic
Orange Belt
Joined: 13 May 2010
Posts: 116
Location: The Woods
Styles: Inayan Eskrima and Shaolin Kempo
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We practice rolling very similar to the second roll. One of the requirements for purple belt is to be able to do a roll, pop up and hit or kick a pad (held by the instructor or your partner), then do a back roll away.
It feels very natural for my body to tuck my head roll shoulder to hip. I was up a 6 foot ladder that started falling back from what it was propped against. I lost my balance and fell off. As soon as I hit the ground went into a back roll. I popped up and I was unharmed. It happened without any conscious thought. I'm sure I would have sprained my ankle badly had I not rolled.
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 30188
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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vantheman
Blue Belt
Joined: 18 Apr 2012
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Sorry for calling it a "Judo Roll" could not think of anything better to call it. (except a somersault of course) I know a few guys who can pull off the first roll a bit better than a somersault, but this was the best video I could find.
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sensei8
KF Sensei
Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 16430
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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Calling it what you did is good enough to get your point across; it's all good!
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cheesefrysamurai
Purple Belt
Joined: 06 Mar 2013
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Location: New Jersey
Styles: Okinawan Goju Ryu
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Judo ukemi is not for stealth, it is soley to prevent damage and absorb shock. the slapping of your arms and feet are necessary.
what he is demonstrating is great for stealth but not for the person taking a throw.
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JusticeZero
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Location: AK
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I've never been completely clear to me why a breakfall should "need" a burst of peak impulse impact force delivered in a way that captures and exaggerates a displacement of air, myself.
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cheesefrysamurai
Purple Belt
Joined: 06 Mar 2013
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Location: New Jersey
Styles: Okinawan Goju Ryu
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The slap, whether the hands or feet are absorbing the impact. It gives the energy somewhere to terminate. I have felt what as break fall feels like when it's not done properly.
Like your whole body is a solar plexus that got hit. Judoka and aikidoka are experts At falling.
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