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Harkon72
Black Belt
Joined: 27 Aug 2012
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Location: Wales
Styles: Okinawan Karate, Aikido, Ninpo.
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 Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 6:09 am Post subject: Sai, the Kobudo weapon of choice. |
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I used to own a pair of Sai. I was never taught any kata for them. This week I met a Kobudo sensei who is willing to teach me 3 sai kobudo kata. I'm over the moon! Does anyone else practice this iconic weapon?
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guird
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Joined: 21 Jun 2013
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Styles: BJJ, MMA, Gongkwon Yusul
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| Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:54 am Post subject: |
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Hi again Harkon
I can't say I've ever trained for the sai, but one of the Shotokan katas is also a kata for sai. It's called Jion, if you have the kata as well (or any others that consider Sai) in Shukokai, consider learning the sai application of them. |
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Harkon72
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Styles: Okinawan Karate, Aikido, Ninpo.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:06 am Post subject: |
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It is common to adapt the Heian or the Pinan Kata to Tonfa and Sai. Oh, Exciting times Ahead!
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andym
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Styles: Goju Ryu
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| Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, several introductory kata / drills. Plus Tsukenshitaku and Ni-cho sai kata.
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Zaine
Black Belt
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Posts: 2277
Location: Dallas, TX
Styles: Matsumura-Seito, Shobayashi-Ryu, Shudokan, Long Fist, American Street Karate, Southern Mantis, HEMA
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I learned the sai via the Ananku kata. We learned it first unarmed and then couple ranks later with the sai with basic sai training in between. It's a fun weapon that seems simple but has so many applications that it takes times to really grasp how practical it is.
As example, I was starting to branch out into Mantis and my instructor asked me to bring every weapon I had. When he saw the sai he asked if I would show him a kata so I showed him Ananku which involves hitting someone with the end of the handle. He had never thought about that application before so we drilled it the entire class.
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Harkon72
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Location: Wales
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I've sent for a new pair of Sai today, with case £40, not bad. I can't wait to receive them. My Kata with them might appear in our Martial Arts Exhibition here in North Wales in March next year.
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Zaine
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You'll have to record it and post it! I love to see sai kata!
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sensei8
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Joined: 23 Feb 2008
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Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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Within the Shindokan Kobudo syllabus, the Sai is one of our many weapons. It's a fun one, but it can pay havoc on a beginners wrists.
Master the weapon and don't let the weapon master you.
Have fun with it...just respect it first!!
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Zaine
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Within the Shindokan Kobudo syllabus, the Sai is one of our many weapons. It's a fun one, but it can pay havoc on a beginners wrists.
Master the weapon and don't let the weapon master you.
Have fun with it...just respect it first!!
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This is advice I wish I had when starting the nunchaku! could have saved MANY bruised hands/knuckles!
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sensei8
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Within the Shindokan Kobudo syllabus, the Sai is one of our many weapons. It's a fun one, but it can pay havoc on a beginners wrists.
Master the weapon and don't let the weapon master you.
Have fun with it...just respect it first!!
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This is advice I wish I had when starting the nunchaku! could have saved MANY bruised hands/knuckles!
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