Same time blocking and punching

AnonymousOne · Red Belt

Do you practise blocking and punching at the same time?

This is not a huge thing in traditional Karate and is rarely seen in all the Kata.

If you practise it, what do you practise and what combinations do you use?

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thaiboxerken · Black Belt

In the Wing Chun systems and in Jun Fan, there are lots of parry/block and strike simultaneous methods. The Pak Sao is a parry and punch at the same time. In boxing, there are plenty of parry and punches at the same time. In Muay Thai, I sometimes shield a kick and throw a cross to my opponent's face at the same time. It takes timing, but simultaneous parry/block and striking is a relatively simple skill.

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AnonymousOne · Red Belt

Simple to perform without an opinion, yes

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YODA · Black Belt

Hi AnonyomouseOne

Sijo Bruce Lee taught that there are various types of defensive action - actegorised from the least effective to the most as folows:-

1. Block & counter
2. Evade & counter
3. Simultaneous block & counter
4. Simultaneous evade & counter
5. Simultaneous parry & counter (sliding leverage)
6. Interception (attack on his preparation) Categorisd into two. The STop-hit and the Opposed stop-hit or "Time hit"

We often block & counter at the same time - in fact we very rarely use numbers 1 & 2.

Our foundation structure for simultaneous block & counter is Wing chun's 4 Gates method.

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[ This Message was edited by: YODA on 2002-02-05 00:23 ]

AnonymousOne · Red Belt

One thing I do alot in sparring, which works well for me, is to get slightly to the side of my oponent and as I a lunging forward to attack with my right arm, simultaneously I will use my left hand to grab the opponents arm and pull it over his other arm so both his arms are pinned and he cant block.

Once you have his arms pinned there absolutely nothing he can do stop the attack. I rarely see anyone else do this until they watch me do it.

With my left hand, I kind of do a circular motion, grab his left arm and pull it over his right and then pull down of both arms. As I reach the final point of pinning both arms down, my fist has stopped 1/4 of an inch from his head. I play nice you see

I just started doing this in the Dojo about 25 years ago. I have no idea where I got the idea from. Its hard to explain the exact motion I do with my arm that I use for pinning but it does have a decisive start and finish point and I even practise the movement without an opponent.

With this particular movement I have to say I have not seen anyone else do it until I show them.

I am sure in other arts it must exist, but I have not seen it in the 50 odd Kata we have or being taught formally in any Dojo.

Maybe I should patent it?

LOL

Seriously though, until you actually saw it, you wouldn't know what I mean. Its too hard to explain. But I think its unique. But surely someone else at sometime has done this? I dunno, I just havent seen it

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[ This Message was edited by: AnonymousOne on 2002-02-05 00:56 ]

Jiggy9 · Purple Belt

Yea...hey anonymous one; say you were doing that to someone, what do you suggest is the best defence or counter for it?

[CT]pizzaboy · Green Belt

Drills such as YODA descirbe are great, but it takes alot of experience and time to refine, and practice it into ones dynamic fighting style. In a fight or sparring match there are so many variables to consider, and having the timing to implement ones offense is a matter of seconds.

YODA · Black Belt

Hey Pizzaboy!

Nobody said it was easy

Simple & Easy - probably the two most commonly confused word inmartial arts

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shotochem · Pre-Black Belt

AO, how far down do you pull your opponents
arm down after you cross over? I have occasionally grabbed the right sleeve of my opponents gi with my left hand while moving in punching with the right but I just do it to turn him and get an opening. Its a pulling across diagonal motion. How do you cross over to to grabbing across without recieving a counter from the other hand??

Im just a little confused.....(as usual

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SaiFightsMS · KF VIP

Well with a higher than normal hand position on one side I do a pretty effective pressing down type of block that traps both of the opponents hands. Then while their hands are going down the face is nice and open. Simple and effective. Just not done too often. Throwing out the lead hand like it is going to be a backfist helps to disquise the press block and can be a good setup.

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