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Prodigy-Child
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2001 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

can somebody tell what exactly san shou is?
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Iron Arahat
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2001 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The most information can be found at http://www.sanshou.org

San shou - Sanda or "free fighting" is basically chinese rules kickboxing a means for the hundereds of styles of wushu to compete. It started from challange matches, and developed into a system of rules.

Currenlty san shou allows the use of any techniques with the exception of punches to the back of the neck, and permits throwing techniques.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2001 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

San Shou is Muay Thai without the elbows and knees but with throws added in. It used to be more like what Iron Arahat says, but the popularity of Muay Thai had the Chinese decide to pattern a ring-sport to compete against the popularity of Muay Thai.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2001 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, san shou fight in a smaller ring then boxing and It has no ropes around the ring. It is ok to throw the other fighter off the ring and 2 off the ring, the fighter lose ( that dosen't happen to offen). San Shou dose have elbow and knee in the traditional fighting but some, just like muay thai, won't allow elbow and knee. Muay Thai and San Shou is very close arts, they are like little brother and biger Brother. San Shou also allow throwing and take downs.

To me,San Shou is alot more real fighting then Muay Thai.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2001 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

San Shou still has knes and elbows...only in North America we see it take out lots. Also the IWUF amatuer rules do not permit elbows and knees, as they want to get talou and san shou in as an olympic event.

Ring size varies...most still have no ropes, although again NA is trying to promote it as a rig sport ie. K-1 demo match in Las Vegas. Also theere is a big movement in the US with Chung Le.

Chinese also have a professional circuit fought in rings, and permit elbow.

A Thai fighter could easily train to fight San Shou, he would just have to 1 learn to fall properly, and learn the throws themselves.

A student from any reputable kung-fu style school, which competes in San Shou can fight Muay Thai fights.
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