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TJS
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still havent heard any proof...yes things have changed...rules/advertising

UFC has moved away from "NHB" to become "MMA"
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2003 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All apologies. I will be civil.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2003 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sanshou originated from china, basically the style is mixing chinese wushu/kungfu & throwing techniques so that its like kickboxing in the ring, but with innovative throws and takedowns. i think cung le is truly the best at this style.
the style sanshou came about when chinese kungfu practitioners wanted to have sparring system a bit more freestyle, so thats why they added throwing/takedowns in the rules instead of just having hands and kicks techniques as they thought it was getting too boring.
i heard ages ago than sanshou defeated muay thai, as they say that muay thai is the worlds best striking/fighting style of martial art. sanshou from china i think wants to take over muay thai, and thats one of the other reasons why sanshou was invented.
the chinese were sick and tired of seeing kungfu practitioners loose against muay thai fighters most of the time, and thats why the chinese invented sanshou martial art.
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TJS
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2003 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

san shao has beaten muay thai before..but if you look closely at the matches..its usually newbie thai fighters from thailand against the top fighers in china..and the fights are usually in china...another thing ot notice is when the MT fighers win it's always by ko and tha San shou guy by decision or points.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2003 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

its probably because the sanshou fighters do loads of throws to gain more points and its also more entertaining that way for the audiences and fans. i saw some video clips and some of the sanshou fighters couldnt be knocked out and thats why they used there throws to show off their style against the muay thai fighters.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2003 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the point was that they rarely won ky KO or TKO and the Thai fighters almost always did.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you all seem to aquire alot of imformation on the subjects you speak of. Thats good
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2003 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone out there seen any close fights with Cung Le involved?. I’d be interested in looking up one of those if they exist; Anything I’ve seen with Cung Le seems to end up pretty one sided.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2003 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, Cung Le does ruin his opponents fairly easily, I wonder how he would do in UFC.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2003 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

from the way you all talk of him, I think he would do ok in UFC. But how would he do against a wrestler?
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