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Treebranch
Black Belt
Joined: 21 Mar 2003
Posts: 2279
Location: Glendale, California USA
Styles: Budo Taijutsu, Boxing,Lars Wallin BJJ, Machado Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Kung Fu San Soo, Lima Lama, Taekwondo
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 4:41 pm Post subject: Sanshou Champion Cung Le |
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Has anyone heard of Cung Le he's the world champion Sanshou Fighter, pretty incredible fighter. Has anyone seen Sanshou Fights? Where did they originate? If anyone knows, I think it would be interesting to discuss. |
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Iron Arahat
Red Belt
Joined: 08 Aug 2001
Posts: 846
Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 6:03 am Post subject: |
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I have seen him fight, but it has been a while. Last I saw him fight was Shonnie Carter, but to be quite honest I stopped following a while ago, after he set up matches outside the IKF.
San Shou is the sport evolution of Kung-fu challenge matches, just a common ground for all styles to compete. _________________ Martial Arts School http://www.shaolinwushu.ca
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Treebranch
Black Belt
Joined: 21 Mar 2003
Posts: 2279
Location: Glendale, California USA
Styles: Budo Taijutsu, Boxing,Lars Wallin BJJ, Machado Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Kung Fu San Soo, Lima Lama, Taekwondo
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Iron Arahat, how do you think Cung would do in UFC? I think he would get recked. _________________ "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who
are willing to endure pain with patience."
"Lock em out or Knock em out" |
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1ONEfighting
Orange Belt
Joined: 11 Apr 2003
Posts: 206
Location: Lawrence Kansas
Styles: A pinch of this, a dash of that.
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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He's pretty well rounded, as a former Sambo Champ. Frank Shamrock once stated that Cung Le could toss him around fairly easily until it went to the ground. But then again, how many fighters can hang with Frank on the ground? _________________ Trainwreck Tiemeyer
wishes he was R. Lee Ermey. |
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The_Ryno
Yellow Belt
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Posts: 53
Location: San Diego, CA
Styles: American Kickboxing, Shorinji Taegar Kenpo
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 4:08 am Post subject: |
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For those of you who don't know, Sanshou is a form of Chinese "Shootfighting". Kung fu style kicking and punching coupled with some groundfighting. As for how Cung would do in UFC, that all depends on what's in the script. Just a new form of WWF. As for hanging with Frank on the ground, the entire Gracie family, easily a few THOUSAND BBJ practitioners, and Frank's own brother Ken. Ken wipes mats with Frank fairly often. Don't confuse Frank Shamrock being the biggest "name" in MMA with being the biggest talent. And don't confuse "wrestling" with MA. _________________ "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." |
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TJS
Black Belt
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Posts: 1843
Styles: boxing, Thai boxing, BJJ,
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 8:02 am Post subject: |
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easily a few THOUSAND BBJ practitioners, and Frank's own brother Ken. Ken wipes mats with Frank fairly often. |
LOL that is a load of crap..what Gracie has beaten frank? what BJJ practicioner has beaten frank? |
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The_Ryno
Yellow Belt
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Posts: 53
Location: San Diego, CA
Styles: American Kickboxing, Shorinji Taegar Kenpo
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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TJS wrote: |
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easily a few THOUSAND BBJ practitioners, and Frank's own brother Ken. Ken wipes mats with Frank fairly often. |
LOL that is a load of crap..what Gracie has beaten frank? what BJJ practicioner has beaten frank? |
Royce (Hoyce? all the Gracie's have odd names.) The first time Frank fought him. Don't get me wrong, Frank is a good fighter, but he's not invincible. _________________ "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." |
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TJS
Black Belt
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Posts: 1843
Styles: boxing, Thai boxing, BJJ,
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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False, outside of his Pancrase fights Frank has lost one fight to john Lober who he destroyed in their rematch...Frank went undefeated as the UFC middle weight champion.
Ken Shamrock is the the one who lost to Royce at UFC 1. |
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The_Ryno
Yellow Belt
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Posts: 53
Location: San Diego, CA
Styles: American Kickboxing, Shorinji Taegar Kenpo
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2003 1:19 am Post subject: |
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TJS wrote: |
Ken Shamrock is the the one who lost to Royce at UFC 1. |
My mistake, perhaps I should devote more time to WWF and less time to legitimate martial arts so I don't forget which Shamrock is which. My apologies. My point remains however, Cung Le's performance in UFC depends on what's in the script. _________________ "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." |
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Treebranch
Black Belt
Joined: 21 Mar 2003
Posts: 2279
Location: Glendale, California USA
Styles: Budo Taijutsu, Boxing,Lars Wallin BJJ, Machado Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Kung Fu San Soo, Lima Lama, Taekwondo
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2003 4:44 am Post subject: |
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Look fact of the matter is the BJJ guys are no longer the Champs of UFC, MAA guys are. Cung Le is an amazing fighter and I would like to see him fight in UFC. _________________ "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who
are willing to endure pain with patience."
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