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Fractured
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 Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:04 pm Post subject: Seisan Translation... 13? |
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Hi everyone,
I'm just curious what other Isshinryu (even other styles) describe Seisan kata when teaching a new student. For my group, we explain that Seisan translates to "13". Whether that is "13 ways", "13 directions", or "13 hands". We gravitate to the 13 directions explanation. 8 directions of the compass, rise, fall, push, pull, and center. Each of these "direction" mechanics can be observed while performing Seisan. I have heard a few explanations that you're fighting 13 attackers. I suppose in certain bunkai this could make some sense.
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Nidan Melbourne
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| At my dojo we call it 13 Hands. |
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aurik
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| Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:28 am Post subject: |
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The kanji for Seisan is 十三, literally "13". It is generally understood to mean "13 ways of attack and defense". In Uechi-Ryu it has another meaning, because Shu Shiwa (Kanbun Uechi's teacher) was also known as the "13th room priest".
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sensei8
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We know it as 13 Hands of which we utilize 3 different stances, Shiko Dachi, Zenkutsu Dachi, and Neko Dachi while undertaking slow breathing.
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Fractured
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Thank you for your replies!
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