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Ellacooper
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Joined: 08 Apr 2014
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Location: Australia
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 Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:51 am Post subject: Self protection |
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For self protection which weapon should we use. It should not much harm the opponent.Waiting for reply.............
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MasterPain
Black Belt
Joined: 26 Oct 2010
Posts: 1949
Location: Parts Unknown
Styles: Bujin Bugei Jutsu, Backyard Kali, Satsui no Hadou
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First, a weapon is meant to harm, otherwise it is not a weapon. Second, Australia has pretty restrictive laws, so look into them.
Anyway, a crowbar makes a good less-lethal tool as long as you avoid head strikes. It's solid and heavy enough to do damage and the hook is good for weapon retention. Again, check local laws.
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CredoTe
Red Belt
Joined: 26 Jul 2013
Posts: 776
Location: Ohio, USA
Styles: Matsubayashi-Ryu (Shorin-Ryu), Hung Gar (Hung Siu Lum)
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:38 am Post subject: |
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IMHO, I'm not sure if any of the traditional kobudo weapons are practical for modern day carry. Maybe the tonfa (side-handled police night sticks; LEOs, do they still issue these, or has the tactical baton completely replaced them?  )
We train in traditional kobudo weapons because they conceptually add to our karate, and because they're fun/cool, but I can't imagine myself actually carrying around a bo, sai, nunchaku, etc for personal protection. In that case, I prefer the art of gunfu (or gundo...) 
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 30188
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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Learning how to properly deploy and use a gun and knife is invaluable. These can be concealed, as long as it is legal to do so where you live.
Carrying a club is likely to be frowned upon, so may not be a good idea. A cane would be an ideal substitute.
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Zaine
Black Belt
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Posts: 2277
Location: Dallas, TX
Styles: Matsumura-Seito, Shobayashi-Ryu, Shudokan, Long Fist, American Street Karate, Southern Mantis, HEMA
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| MasterPain wrote: |
| First, a weapon is meant to harm, otherwise it is not a weapon. |
Agreed. If you're using a weapon generally I think that the intention is to hurt the opponent.
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sensei8
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Joined: 23 Feb 2008
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Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Zaine wrote: |
| MasterPain wrote: |
| First, a weapon is meant to harm, otherwise it is not a weapon. |
Agreed. If you're using a weapon generally I think that the intention is to hurt the opponent. |
A weapon has the ability to hurt the opponent, albeit, the wielder of said weapon is where the intention lies, and not in any weapon!!
Imho!!
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bushido_man96
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Joined: 31 Mar 2006
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Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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| sensei8 wrote: |
| Zaine wrote: |
| MasterPain wrote: |
| First, a weapon is meant to harm, otherwise it is not a weapon. |
Agreed. If you're using a weapon generally I think that the intention is to hurt the opponent. |
A weapon has the ability to hurt the opponent, albeit, the wielder of said weapon is where the intention lies, and not in any weapon!!
Imho!!
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All true. To use one of tallgeese's terms, a weapon is a force multiplier, and should be used as such. A weapon that doesn't much hurt the opponent is of little use, like a pillow fight. If you don't want to hurt an opponent, then avoid the confrontation altogether.
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Montana
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 18 Apr 2007
Posts: 883
Location: Formerly Kalispell, Montana, now Spokane, WA
Styles: Shorin Ryu Matsumura Kenpo & Kobudo
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| bushido_man96 wrote: |
| A cane would be an ideal substitute. |
AGREED! I have a rattan cane that I used because it's thick (about an inch), tougher than wood, lightweight and totally leagal to carry anywhere in the world, even on air planes!
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cathal
Black Belt
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Posts: 2237
Location: Atlantic Canada
Styles: Shotokan (Ryukyu Kobujutsu, Iaido)
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I've trained in Kubotan/Yawara and found it can be effective. But you must review your local & federal laws before carrying one.
To be honest you won't like my preferred answer: my brain. Its the best tool we all have to recognize and avoid dangerous places & situations. It even helps me run away.
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Spartacus Maximus
Black Belt
Joined: 01 Jun 2014
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Styles: Shorin ryu
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If I did any weapons training I would focus on things commonly found anywhere. Sticks or stick-like objects can be found anywhere whether in rural or urban environments and they can be easily discarded. Pens, pencils are another example of objects that can be used as a defensive weapon. There really is no need to carry a weapon if one is confident in one's judgement, defense skills and knowledge of the potential of everyday objects.
With a weapon, sooner or later the question of motives will arise. Who has ever heard of someone being asked to justify carrying a pen, a pencil or other items of everyday use?
At the end of the day, judgement is the best defense and prevention against finding oneself in such an extreme situation that would require a weapon of any sort. |
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