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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:18 pm    Post subject: Skina kata Reply with quote

Does anyone have a youtube link to this kata? I did a search and only found a lot of Polish computer game clips.
New kata for me, and I would like to study it at home a bit more.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tsuki-No kata. Pronounced Ski-no...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6rOr84IIIJ0

I haven’t learned it yet, but as far as I know that’s how we do it too. I think the counts are the same too.

Tsuki-no and Seido IV are the only kyu kata in the syllabus I don’t know.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Little known history of Tsuki-No: Developed by Seigo Tada, founder of Seigokan Goju Ryu. They call it Kihon Tsuki-No Kata (basic/foundational punching kata). They also have Kihon Uke-No Kata (basic blocking kata). Seigokan Tsuki-No is slightly different; I don’t think they do the nukite at the end, rather they do a jun tsuki, I think.

Popular false history outside of Seido: Kaicho developed it. Most likely, he brought it to Kyokushin when he was the chief instructor at honbu in Japan. I’ll ask him personally if and when the time is appropriate.

My personal history with it: We did it in my former organization. My sensei told me he was going to teach it to me next class. Next class, he said they dropped it from the syllabus last night in a meeting at honbu. Apparently they thought “it wasn’t traditional enough because it was Mas Oyama’s kata.” My sensei at the time wasn’t happy with that, as he said it was his favorite kyu kata. Retrospectively, they were wrong about its origins.

Other personal history: Somehow shuseki shihan and jun shihan both think I know it and ask me to do it at least once a week until I remind them. They’ve got some sort of mental block about me not knowing it. I was the only one in class tonight, and we went over every kata I know. Of course he called out Tsuki-No. I told him I don’t know it. He said “then I guess it’s time to teach you it.” After the makuso and yoi, he stopped, shook his head, and said “never mind; I’ll teach you it at brown belt like I’m supposed to” and chuckled. I guess he forgot it was a brown belt kata and I’m still an advanced green belt, even though he had the syllabus in his hand 30 minutes prior.

Most people in the dojo say it’s their favorite kyu kata. From the outside looking in, it’ll probably be my second favorite after Saiha. I don’t know why, I just love Saiha.

Sorry for the rambling
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks JR, all interesting ramble.... )
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JR, I found this one also which I like very much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2xdMr3oacQ
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bulltahr wrote:
JR, I found this one also which I like very much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2xdMr3oacQ


I GUESS he knows what he’s doing, if you like that whole sharp, strong, etc. type of performance

On a serious note, he’s quite good.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JR 137 wrote:
Tsuki-No kata. Pronounced Ski-no...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6rOr84IIIJ0

I haven’t learned it yet, but as far as I know that’s how we do it too. I think the counts are the same too.

Tsuki-no and Seido IV are the only kyu kata in the syllabus I don’t know.


Nice. It appears simple, but I like it. Simple is often the best, too.
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