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ts757
Orange Belt
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Location: Leeds
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2001 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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Do you think it's right for clubs to get sponsership? Does it complete the McDojo image? is it an insult to the very foundation of karate? Or is it ok, as long as what the club teaches is sound?
What do you guys and dolls think?
[ This Message was edited by: ts757 on 2001-10-12 15:37 ] |
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Iron Arahat
Red Belt
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Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2001 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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I think sponsorship is good to a point. I personally send letters out every year for donations for the club. In exchange we take out an ad in the local paper every year thanking all those who donated.
I think in our situation it is appropriate as we are a non-profit association. Also it enables us to keep our training fees low, $350 Canadian / year ($230 US). |
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thaiboxerken
Black Belt
Joined: 21 Jun 2001
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Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2001 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Sure, I wish more businesses would sponsor martial art schools and events, this would help promote the martial arts in the USA. There is that draw-back though, the McDojo's would probably get more exposure than good schools because they are better at selling their crappy systems in general.
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moobrack
Black Belt
Joined: 09 Aug 2001
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Location: Leeds
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 9:29 am Post subject: |
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I agree completely with Thaiboxerken!
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Karateka
Red Belt
Joined: 22 Jun 2001
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Location: North Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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Well said Thaiboxerken, I feel the same way!
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DarkMonkey
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Location: UK, Wales
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2001 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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Nothing wrong with sponsorship. Nothing wrong with trying to get the word out about your dojo either, more people = more motiviation for instructors to keep on doing the classes (I mean sometimes I wonder when I, and four others, turn up at class - he has to drive 30 Miles to get there), more people to interact and socialise with. More people to learn from, and more people getting involved. If sponsorship helps in that goal then great.
I've never come accross a "McDojo" but I assume we are talking about the places with club secretarys who take off three months money in training fees in advance, hands out black belts to four year olds who have been doing it a year and cares far less about teaching people to defend themselves as it does reguarding how much money they can make for their financial quarter |
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KUGB_Chris1985
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Joined: 03 Jun 2001
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Location: Harrogate, N.yorkshire, UK
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2001 8:52 am Post subject: |
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Yes
but only if the club is 'good enough' (not in it for the money)
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"In combat know the enemys rhythm, use a rhythm he cannot anticipate, upset his rhythm, and win." Miyamoto Musashi (1584-1645)
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Iron Arahat
Red Belt
Joined: 08 Aug 2001
Posts: 846
Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2001 11:14 am Post subject: |
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Good point Chris...
Hey I'm a blue belt again...somebody has been deleting my posts again... |
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ts757
Orange Belt
Joined: 31 May 2001
Posts: 171
Location: Leeds
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2001 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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Doesnt anyone see walking around with a large "coca-cola" symbol on your back offensive to the martial art itself?
I have to agree with some of the opinions, lowering lesson fees is a good reason.
*cough* McDojo *cough*
I suppose its just evidence of the arts adapting to todays modern culture. To quote the signature of a moderator "oh well, time will tell." |
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DarkMonkey
Yellow Belt
Joined: 05 Aug 2001
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Location: UK, Wales
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2001 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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Was coca-cola actually on his suit? I hardly think it's offensive to anyone to wear a branded shirt in a karate dojo if you have just changed out of your suit or something....
I'm not much of a traditionalist, I don't really care for all the japaneese etiquette, I'll obey it if its enforced but I wouldn't preach much of it, like Chris says, what is important to me is that the instructor is a great instructor and my fellow karatakers are fun to train with... |
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