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ZakariRu
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thered be no way to fairly judge it. it would be olympic tag.
just like the open tournament scene. |
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BlackI
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I disagree... If done properly, I think it could be very effective. There could be takedowns, grappling, kicks, punches, elbows, and knees. No strikes to the groin, joints and back.
Then all the people that beleive that one art is better then another would be able to see if this is true.
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ZakariRu
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| Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2002 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| It sounds like a Karate tournament. except we can hit to the back. |
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BlackI
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| Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2002 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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No it doesn't have not. I have not see Karate tournament do grappling and standing at the same time. It is usually one or the other.
Use some of boxing's rule in regard to points and knockouts and use the tapout rule for the mat work
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ZakariRu
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| Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2002 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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You havent not not seen alot of karate tournaments then.
Alot of compeitors in Karate tournaments do huge ammounts of grappling a. biamonti hip tosses everyone. |
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BlackI
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That's were you are wrong. I started competing when I was young and have attended all types of tournaments. Usually, it will be standing sparing or grappling. Now of course grappling always starts from a standing position and ends up on the mat, but the rules allow for that. Stand up fighting does not have rules for mat work, the whistle is blown and you come back to the line.
Now tournments differ region to region, style to style. There might be some tourns that allow everything, but from my experience I see one or the other, never combined
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Tobias_Reece
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Styles: Matayoshi Okinawawn Kobudo, Shotokan Karate
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Considering any throw above the waist is illegal in karate competition, I doubt we'd see any.
Besides - you can hit to the back in karate competition.
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Tobias_Reece
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Oh, in the 'old' rules, you can't hold for more than 2 seconds. In the 'new' rules you can only grab in counter to a technique - plus it can't be a 'grab'.
Confuses the hell out of me - but ZakariRu I have no idea what you are tlaking about.
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