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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:57 pm    Post subject: The Huen Sao movements Reply with quote

short video on Wing Chun Huen sao motions. The Huen sao motions are the most common and practiced movement in Wing Chun. Why? I will give a simple answer to this question...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r7Vi4hv0NI
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stonecrusher69 wrote:
short video on Wing Chun Huen sao motions. The Huen sao motions are the most common and practiced movement in Wing Chun. Why? I will give a simple answer to this question...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r7Vi4hv0NI
Thanks for sharing.

Making the full rotation of the huen Sao can be forgotten very easily due to the escaping flick of the tuet Sao idea from the fook sao to the man Sao, as the last movement from the first set (sil Lum tao) is a proper huen Sao.

When I practice the huen Saos in the first Wing Chun form, I add a twist with the wrist inwards as if punching in to the opponent's chin.

Another (visual) good point from the video is how the huen Sao with an extra twist helps to form the bong Sao shape.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alan Armstrong wrote:
stonecrusher69 wrote:
short video on Wing Chun Huen sao motions. The Huen sao motions are the most common and practiced movement in Wing Chun. Why? I will give a simple answer to this question...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r7Vi4hv0NI
Thanks for sharing.

Making the full rotation of the huen Sao can be forgotten very easily due to the escaping flick of the tuet Sao idea from the fook sao to the man Sao, as the last movement from the first set (sil Lum tao) is a proper huen Sao.

When I practice the huen Saos in the first Wing Chun form, I add a twist with the wrist inwards as if punching in to the opponent's chin.

Another (visual) good point from the video is how the huen Sao with an extra twist helps to form the bong Sao shape.


Thanks Alan, glad you liked the video..
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I regard the Huen Sao movement as a way to strengthen the wrists. As we don't wrap the wrist or wear protective gloves.

How important is the Huen Sao? Very!

How many transitional hand movements and shapes are generated from the Huen Sao movement? Many!

Jum sao, Jut sao, Kau sao, Fook sao, Woo sao, Mun sao, Biu sao, Bong sao, Kuen sao, Tan sao, Gum sao, Gang sao, Kuan sao, Tut sao, Pak sao, Tok sao, Lan sao, Lap sao, Fut sao, Jip sao, Got sao, Chune sao, Man geng sao, Tie Sao, Cha jee sao, Chang sao, charp sau, Chum sao, Dai bong sao, Ding sao, Fak sau, Faan sao, Fuun sao, Kiu sao, kwak sao, Luk sao, Lut sao, Ngou sao, Poon sau, San sao ...

Sao meaning hand or arm; in between is the wrist with a turning circular movement the 'Huen sao'

All of these terms relate to the movements of "Wing Chun" Bruce Lee's use of techniques in the movies; back in the 70s. He was moving incredibly fast, just can't imagine anyone stopping to asking him "Hey Bruce! What is the name of that thing you do when it is impossible to see what you are doing?"

BL answer: Intercepting fist!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was Confucius that said "If I show you a corner of a table then you will understand the other three legs" or something similar.

"Huen" its meaning is circle, then as learned in the Sil Lim Tau, circular movement or circle has a great significance in Wing Chun.

Circling fingers, wrist, elbows, shoulders, ankles, knees, hips, waist and head.

Circling the opponent, pivoting, circling stepping, hock punch or upper cut, knee and elbow strikes (as in movements that are part of a circle) chain punching... are huen punches...

Therefore to "Huen Sao" the wrist has a far more profound meaning than just circling the wrist, than it appears, as Wing Chun is a conceptual martial art, in which we are just scratching the Huen aspect surface of it here.

As the late great Bruce Lee would probably explain it like this "Don't concentrate on pointing and drawing a circle around the moon or you will mis all the heavenly glory"
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