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Jian
White Belt
Joined: 16 Mar 2005
Posts: 10
Location: Canada
Styles: Shito-ryu itosu kai
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 Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 8:56 pm Post subject: Trying out for Varsity TKD team with Karate |
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| In the fall I will be trying for the varsity TKD team. Problem is, I do karate not TKD. I figure that my first large disadvantage is in the distance fighting game. Also I assume that I have a disadvantage speed-wise. At least one good thing is that they have changed the rules so that I can now score with punches and not just kicks so that will help me because I noticed a lot of them dangle their arms. I am only short, 5 foot 5 but I am natually quick and I am told I hit hard for my size. I would like any advice on how to adapt my karate to compete equally on the long distance fight. Thanks. |
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KLax87
Yellow Belt
Joined: 27 May 2005
Posts: 41
Location: near Atlanta
Styles: Soo Bahk Do
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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out of curiosity, are you in high school or college? I wish my HS had a varsity martial arts team. If you are friends with any of the TKD team members or know any decent TKD people, I would suggest sparring with them. BEFORE you try out. every style has strengths and weaknesses. you've got to pick up on these yourself. I'm not familiar with your style of karate so I cant offer any specific advice..but see if the TKD people are very linear fighters. If they are, I highly suggest when they come at u to side step(going to the side of your leading leg of course) and stepping into a sidekick, jump sidekick, or if you are really that quick even a punch. try it out and good luck
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isshinryu5toforever
Black Belt
Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 2358
Location: Seoul, South Korea
Styles: Isshin-Ryu Karate, Jidokwon Taekwondo, Kyokushinkan
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The one advantage you may have is the fact that many TKD players who have done olympic style TKD don't use their hands very effectively. In Karate, we do. If you can beat them to the punch that's great. This is coming from someone who transitioned from full-contact karate into olympic style TKD just this year. I had a little bit of a time adjusting to the rules, and I saw many an opportunity to punch someone in the face, but had to restrain myself. So, like they mentioned above, spar with someone who does olympic TKD. You should be able to adjust fairly quickly if you're a mid range martial artist. It's all about rules. If you're a good fighter already, don't worry too much.
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isshinryu5toforever
Black Belt
Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 2358
Location: Seoul, South Korea
Styles: Isshin-Ryu Karate, Jidokwon Taekwondo, Kyokushinkan
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oh, and as for fighting advice here's a bit. True they are distance fighters, but they're all about hit and miss. They don't block very much, but they try to make their opponent miss. It's a much faster game this way. However, if you read their round kick and step right in to stop it and hit them in the chest with a reverse punch followed by a round kick it can be a very effective counter, because of the non-contact to the head with hands. The staple of today's TKD is the round kick. If you have trouble with speed at first, play the game of attrition. When they come in don't worry about scoring points. Front kick them right in the gut. Side kick right toward the hip when they round kick. If they try to "surf-in" (shuffle in their their round kick, round kick right to the side of the leg in the air. Stuff their kick. If you can make it a scoreless affair in the first round and just put them in a lot of pain, you can win the second round with a point of two. Just think of things you would hate to have done to you that are perfectly legal, and do it to them. Don't worry about scoring the first round. Worry about that in the second. Rely on strength and conditioning if you can't win the speed game. Also, find someone who you can practice the clinch with. This is a very important part of the TKD game at the level you're talking about, so try to find an Olympic TKD person to help you with this. Best of luck to you.
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Jian
White Belt
Joined: 16 Mar 2005
Posts: 10
Location: Canada
Styles: Shito-ryu itosu kai
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| I am currently at university and I do have a friend that I am training with at the moment but not as much as I would like too. We are both in the army so our schedules are quite full. Right now I am attending a boxing class that has some TKD mixed in. It's being taught by a Trevor Brown I believe. I am not sure where he is a TKD master or not. As I said before I am naturally fast but I have a hard time getting loose as well. I am fast enough to compete but if I could relax I'd be twice as fast. That's the way the army makes us, highstrung. Anyways thanks for all the advice. |
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KLax87
Yellow Belt
Joined: 27 May 2005
Posts: 41
Location: near Atlanta
Styles: Soo Bahk Do
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relaxation huh?possibly try some deep breathing exercises to focus your mind before you begin?
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Soni33
White Belt
Joined: 18 Sep 2005
Posts: 13
Location: Kent, England
Styles: Shotokan Karate
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:48 am Post subject: Re: Trying out for Varsity TKD team with Karate |
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| In the fall I will be trying for the varsity TKD team. Problem is, I do karate not TKD. I figure that my first large disadvantage is in the distance fighting game. Also I assume that I have a disadvantage speed-wise. At least one good thing is that they have changed the rules so that I can now score with punches and not just kicks so that will help me because I noticed a lot of them dangle their arms. I am only short, 5 foot 5 but I am natually quick and I am told I hit hard for my size. I would like any advice on how to adapt my karate to compete equally on the long distance fight. Thanks. |
Don't just think because you do Karate and not Taekwondo you'll be at a disadvantage.
I started at a WTF Taekwondo club (following closure of my Karate Club) and had my first competetion in the England Open at Southampton about 5 years back. I won by KO in the first 20 seconds of the first round (no this isn't a wind up) and won with a reverse roundhouse (my favoutie technique) to the head - it was the second kick of a combination, a roundhouse opened the way for the reverse roundhouse. The guy had all the head gear on, but it still knocked him out. The crowd went wild, but i was bricking it big time as i thought i had killed the guy. The First Aid were called and they gave him the salts, it wasn't a very pleasant experience. Although i'm quite leggy and flexible for a Karate guy, trust me when i say it doesn't matter what style you do, a kick is a kick and a punch is a punch. 
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mean fighter
Orange Belt
Joined: 16 Oct 2005
Posts: 178
Location: SYRACUSE
Styles: Tae kwon do (ITF)
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varsity TKD huh? well I wish I ahd that in my school anyway I do ITF TKD and the best advice I got for ya is to use your apperance to your advantage make them think your weak and just explode 
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DKizzle
Orange Belt
Joined: 21 Mar 2005
Posts: 124
Styles: Tracy Kenpo
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| Man I really wish my school had Martial Arts teams. |
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Mistassailant5
Orange Belt
Joined: 08 May 2010
Posts: 105
Styles: Shaolin Kung Fu, Muay Thai, and Aikido
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Work your angles and distances. For their kicks keep dodging to the sides while closing in and keep the distance nice and close, if they try to hit you with a close kick spin around them, they will get confused giving you a beautiful window of opportunity.
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on the post.
