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Is the UFC a good guide as to which martial arts are effective for the street or is the UFC too sporty?
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Good guide |
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Too sporty |
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STR33T GUY
Orange Belt
Joined: 13 Dec 2004
Posts: 204
Styles: Boxing, Muay Thai, Wrestling, Jujitsu
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 1:05 am Post subject: UFC vs. the Street |
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Good guide _________________ A minute of experience on the street is worth a year of training in the dojo.
If you can’t sprawl and brawl, you can’t street fight. |
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delta1
Black Belt
Joined: 17 Feb 2003
Posts: 1780
Location: North Central Washington
Styles: It's ALL Kenpo! Bring it back to base!
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 1:54 am Post subject: |
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Abstain
Good guide for what works when two fighters square off.
Too limitted (sporty) in that it doesn't address a lot of the attacks you might face on the street.
But this is not to be confused or construed to mean that UFC fighters can't handle themselves in these situations. Many or most have probably studied arts which include these defenses. And I wouldn't attack one of them if you gave me one free swing with a baseball bat! _________________ Freedom isn't free! |
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pineapple
Black Belt
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
Posts: 1039
Location: Hawaii
Styles: Kajukenbo
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:03 am Post subject: |
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Good guide
The best guide to what works on the street is a fight on the street!
However MMA fights are the most realistic type of combat and the closest thing to a real fight in a controlled environment!
Many of my friends compete in MMA competition and they are most certainly capable on the street. _________________ What works works |
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The Saint
Green Belt
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Posts: 441
Location: Dartmouth, NS Canada
Styles: Tae Kwon Do ITF
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 7:44 am Post subject: |
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I agree with delta1, I would want to meet up in a dark alley with any champion/contender from UFC. Steet fights also have things like multiple people, guns knifes and other weapons, things not used in the ring. Most UFC fighters would be capable of appling their style to fight on the street if they needed to. _________________ "Pain is the best instructor, but no one wants to go to his class." Choi, Hong Hi ITF Founder |
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Hudson
Green Belt
Joined: 05 Aug 2004
Posts: 438
Styles: Toad
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Too sporty.
UFC is childs play compared to no-limits fighting.
I've never seen or heard of a street fight lasting 10 minutes. _________________ The game of chess is much like a swordfight; you must think before you move. |
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pvwingchun
Orange Belt
Joined: 30 May 2003
Posts: 172
Location: Prescott Valley, AZ
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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The UFC and all the other's K1, NHB etc., have rules and are not realistic combat. These guys train for that ring. Although I agree I wouldn't want to meet one of them in a dark alley. Again I will have to refer you to an article on our website on Combat Efficiency. There is a big difference between a street confrontation and the ring. So no it is not a good guide. _________________ Wing Chun Kuen Alliance
www.wing-chun.us |
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Drunken Monkey
Black Belt
Joined: 10 Apr 2002
Posts: 3559
Location: bar italia
Styles: white chocolate profiteroles and natas....
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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i didn't vote as i'm not versed enough in how ufc works to judge.
how-ever, a better person than myself has said that the ufc is geared by its rules-set to go to the ground.
add to that the fact that a lot of people who occasionally 'fight' as part of their job
i.e doormen
say that most of their fights last a few seconds and it doesn't go to the ground.
kinda points to a 'no' answer to your question, doesn't it? _________________ post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are.
"When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite." |
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Hudson
Green Belt
Joined: 05 Aug 2004
Posts: 438
Styles: Toad
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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Drunken Monkey wrote: |
how-ever, a better person than myself has said that the ufc is geared by its rules-set to go to the ground.
add to that the fact that a lot of people who occasionally 'fight' as part of their job
i.e doormen
say that most of their fights last a few seconds and it doesn't go to the ground. |
Exactly. These guys aren't fighting with cocaine addicts, drunks, or armed or multiple combatants, or any combination of that. _________________ The game of chess is much like a swordfight; you must think before you move. |
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Gary
White Belt
Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 11
Location: Oregon, U.S.A.-Earth
Styles: Chinese Kung Fu,Tai Chi,and Others
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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UFC is a wrestling match and has nothing to do with the street. Far too many rules that favor wrestling. Wrestling on the street = trip to the hospital. WWE wrestling is at least entertaining. _________________ "Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you." - Satchel Paige. |
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Shane
Purple Belt
Joined: 21 Sep 2004
Posts: 576
Location: WA
Styles: Combative Arts
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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I put good guide
I dont see how it could not be a good guide, it might not be a complete and perfect guide due to the rules. I think that some techniques can truley be tested in these fights so right there its bringing you that much closer to what works. I also think that if you end up in a street fight with a well trained fighter who might be some what equal to you your basically going to have a similar but more brutal match as you see in the UFC etc. As you see in some of these fights anything can happen, sometimes you get all geared up for two awsome fighters meeting each other in the octagon and the next thing you know its over. I'm not trying to say that these fights are equal to street situations, it is a sport, but I do think that a lot of what you see going on in the octagon can be of great use in a street fight. The major downfall is your not always one on one when on the street and sometimes weapons or other objects are used against you so this is were other training needs to be focused on. Anyways just my opinion _________________ A True Martial Arts Instructor is more of a guide than anything, on your way to developing the warrior within yourself!!!!! |
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