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Do you think that firearms instruction should be part of combat martial arts training?
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Yes (if yes why) |
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86% |
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No (if no why not) |
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13% |
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USCMAAI
Orange Belt
Joined: 16 Jul 2005
Posts: 144
Location: USA
Styles: Combat Karate, Kenpo,Jujitsu, and Boxing
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 11:32 am Post subject: Use of firearms |
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In my system we require firearms training (weapons use, handgun retention, tactical use of a firearm). I am curious as to how many other instructors train students in the use of firearms. _________________ "Not every tiger will pounce, but every tiger may!"
K.Mabon
United States Combat Martial Arts Association International |
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DWx
Black Belt
Joined: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 6455
Location: UK
Styles: Tae Kwon Do & Yang family Tai Chi
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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I would say that to defend yourself against any weapon you would need to have even a basic understanding of how it works and operates. The same applies to firearms. If you don't know how your attacker is going to be using it, you don't know how to stop them from using it.
We don't actually learn how to operate firearms in our system but we are taught methods of disarming an attacker (if its possible). Personally though I have learnt to use a handgun and a shotgun and I wish that my MA training would include more of this. _________________ "Everything has its beauty, but not everyone sees it." ~ Confucius |
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The BB of C
Black Belt
Joined: 11 Feb 2007
Posts: 1264
Location: Orlando, Florida
Styles: Kuk Sool Won, Isshin-ryu, Capoeira, Brazillian Jiu Jutsu, Judo
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting. I know I wouldn't ever teach how to use a gun, but if I could, I would teach how to take one away from the assailant. |
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cross
Black Belt
Joined: 22 Jan 2003
Posts: 1904
Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 4:02 am Post subject: |
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I believe they should be taught because it is a realistic threat in current times. To me it doesnt make sense the amount of time people spend learning weapons that have no relation to weapons found in society today, yet they completely avoid common weapons like guns and knives. |
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 30167
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 10:10 am Post subject: |
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I kind of agree with cross. I think that learning to use a firearm is very important. Learning to take one away is only one part of the equation, and it would not be very common. Learning to fire the weapon, how to move strategically with the weapon, etc, are all very important things, I think.
I do not teach this, but I am learning it, currently. It really is a lot of fun! _________________ www.haysgym.com
http://www.sunyis.com/
www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com |
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lordtariel
Black Belt
Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Posts: 1709
Location: Oregon
Styles: (Past)Judo, Yang Family Tai Chi, (Current)Shito-Ryu Karate, Kobudo(Tonfajitsu)
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 10:46 am Post subject: |
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If you are looking to learn self defense you need to know how to deal with guns. Not just disarming techniques and such, but how the guns work. Can you tell how many bullets a gun has just by looking at it? How does the gun fire and how much damage will it do? Can you identify the type of gun to the police?(deringer, rifle, revolver, ect...)If you gain control of a gun from an attacker you should know how to use it. _________________ There's no place like 127.0.0.1 |
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glockmeister
Green Belt
Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Posts: 490
Location: Pa
Styles: Haganah, Krav Maga, JKD, Kickboxing,BJJ, Judo
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:13 am Post subject: |
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I think learning proper use and handling of firearms is important. It doesn't have to be from a martial arts platform either. Lets face it, guns and knives are a part of the criminal element as well as in the law-abiding elements of our society. It is good to at least familiarize yourself with them even if you personally don't choose to own or carry one. _________________ "You know the best thing about pain? It let's you know you're not dead yet!"
http://geshmacheyid.forumotion.com/f14-self-defense |
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Martial_Artist
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 19 Apr 2002
Posts: 935
Location: Western USA.
Styles: The Pure Art
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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I think any martial art seeking to promote itself for self-defense or as a "fighting art" needs to teach offensive and defensive firearms techniques. _________________ "I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination.
Imagination is more important than knowledge.
Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world." Einstein |
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JMac32
White Belt
Joined: 21 Aug 2007
Posts: 10
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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i think u shud cuz wut if some1 pulled one on u, ud know what to do, and maybe something will hapen when ull hav to use a gun. |
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karateone
Yellow Belt
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Posts: 39
Location: Tennessee
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:50 am Post subject: |
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where i am from 9 out of 10 people own and shoot guns on a regular basis either for hunting, competition, of just fun. guns are a part of everyday life in a small town. i own five myself. teaching defense against guns is a must. although crime rate is very low here the gun rate is alot. |
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