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stonecrusher69
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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2015 12:02 am    Post subject: Using Soft to Overcome Hard Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jULpP9CqOwQ
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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2015 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This concept is seen in the MA...Karate, Judo, Aikido, etc...still, very nice tutorial, thanks for sharing.

BTW, have your student, the one in this video, do some makiwara and the like training to condition his body, as a thought. That way when hard meets the soft, he'll absorb it properly. I did get a chuckle, mean of me, but I'm sick that way.



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sensei8 wrote:
This concept is seen in the MA...Karate, Judo, Aikido, etc...still, very nice tutorial, thanks for sharing.

BTW, have your student, the one in this video, do some makiwara and the like training to condition his body, as a thought. That way when hard meets the soft, he'll absorb it properly. I did get a chuckle, mean of me, but I'm sick that way.




Glad you liked the video..my student is ok,,his right arm was a bit swollen for about a day but he's fine. In China he did a lot of Taekwondo I'm not sure if the do any body conditioning or not.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I liked the video but just have a few concerns with the soft overcoming hard idea. The big rooted man being attacked by a small man attacking tough forarms. I don't see any softness but I do see a larg rooted stillness overcoming a small moving collision. Much the same way as a small car crashes in to a tree. I would like to see if the principle described works just as well if the roles were reversed with the smaller man blocking against the larger man. I believe the outcome would be the same. I see it as hard vs hard and the smaller hard loosing to the bigger hard. Or the bigger rock crushing the smaller rock. Or in other words if the smaller man hit the bigger man's forarms and the bigger man did the same thing both travelling at half the same speed the result would still be the same with the smaller man being hurt. This is from my internal MA point of view interpretation only and nothing concerning Wing Chun fighting techniques or theories.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alan Armstrong wrote:
I liked the video but just have a few concerns with the soft overcoming hard idea. The big rooted man being attacked by a small man attacking tough forarms. I don't see any softness but I do see a larg rooted stillness overcoming a small moving collision. Much the same way as a small car crashes in to a tree. I would like to see if the principle described works just as well if the roles were reversed with the smaller man blocking against the larger man. I believe the outcome would be the same. I see it as hard vs hard and the smaller hard loosing to the bigger hard. Or the bigger rock crushing the smaller rock. Or in other words if the smaller man hit the bigger man's forarms and the bigger man did the same thing both travelling at half the same speed the result would still be the same with the smaller man being hurt. This is from my internal MA point of view interpretation only and nothing concerning Wing Chun fighting techniques or theories.



I did a video on this..I used a 350lbs man to pick me over and he was not able to...the video is called testing the root..
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