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sensei8
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:46 pm    Post subject: Uuhhhhh...She Won Reply with quote

While this video is a tad over 9 minutes, try to watch it in its entirety...especially when she battles back while being on her back with him standing over her [nice hook kick from the ground]...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=R3OgpLmtQuE&feature=endscreen

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I got to go to work now, so I'll have to watch it in the morning. And of course he loses. Anything vs Street Fighter, street fighter loses. And there's never a hadouken. False advertising is bad karma.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MasterPain wrote:
Well, I got to go to work now, so I'll have to watch it in the morning. And of course he loses. Anything vs Street Fighter, street fighter loses. And there's never a hadouken. False advertising is bad karma.

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

MP, you are FUNNY!!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, no. Just NO.

Ok, first of all, this guy fails tactics forever.

Second of all, the girl he was fighting fails power generation forever.

She seemed to be able to hit him at will, but was unable to connect with enough force to make him react.

As for this being a "Real" fight? I have never been in any fake fights. There are fights, and there are demos. But he clearly was not attempting to establish any sort of dominance or to do any sort of damage to her. It doesn't matter if she had better technique, which she clearly did. If he had any intention of doing any damage to her, he would have done so and the movements she was using would have been ineffective at stopping him.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No clue on the ground.

No ring control.

No connection to the Earth.

No hadoukens.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tempest wrote:

As for this being a "Real" fight? I have never been in any fake fights. There are fights, and there are demos. But he clearly was not attempting to establish any sort of dominance or to do any sort of damage to her. It doesn't matter if she had better technique, which she clearly did. If he had any intention of doing any damage to her, he would have done so and the movements she was using would have been ineffective at stopping him.

Sums it up for me. He doesn't seem to want to hit or hurt her in anyway at the start. The size difference should have made it easy for him to overpower here.

But aside from that, it seems to me the guy doesn't understand range or when to kick. From the initial bit where they introduce the fighters, it seems like he is technically proficient to throw sidekicks, hook-kicks etc. but in the fight he doesn't do so effectively at all. The female fighter is bouncing right on the end of his range so it should have been simple enough to just slam a lead leg roundhouse in there and follow up. If you look here, here and here (+ other instances), he can't do a roundhouse without stepping in with the back leg first which is a massive tell to the opponent and she just moves away or into him each time. His rear leg roundhouses also lack speed and power (example) and his grappling and takedowns are just poor. Apart from that he doesn't really do much. Towards the second half of video when she lands some good punches, he seems to resort to scrapping rather than do anything meaningful. Once he got a hold on her, that should have been it for a guy his size.

Having said that though, the female fighter hit him in the face a number of times but none of them had an effect other than to make him angry. Bounced around a lot and hit him in the face but had he been a bit more of a competent fighter, I don't think she would have gotten away so easily.

Not to put him down or anything but he seems like an inexperienced fighter all round.

What's the premise to these videos? I wonder what rules (if any) there were fighting under?

They have loads more of these VS fights on their website but from the handful I watched, the fighters they are using are mediocre and don't represent their respective styles that well: http://www.fight-club.biz/real_fights.php
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Her hits didn't have any effect. True. However, she fought as a point fighter right from the start, and he, well, he didn't fight at all. Why he didn't want to engage her is beyond me because chivalry doesn't belong on the floor; she wasn't shy at all for one minute in tagging him.

She had some good moments even though her ground-work, for one, was almost insignificant across the board, she still fought while on her back, and for me, that's admirable. She studied herself, she studied him, she made a plan, and then she carried out the plan.

The victory was hers no matter how it looked.



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All she wanted to do was dance and kite around at "not combat" range. Every now and then she would skip in and snipe at his ankle. Eventually he had to settle for breaking form and chasing her with his track skills instead of his martial arts skills just to be able to exchange techniques. Calling the fight without a score was the call to make.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL, he was too reluctant to complete and combination and her kiah began to get on my nerves, LOL
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He was a training partner to her. That's all. He didn't use any of the kicks that would've made her life hell. He never once tried to strike her in the face. He never exerted his strength advantage or his reach advantage.

She exerts waaaaaay too much energy bouncing straight up and down. She was getting inches of air underneath her feet. One sliding sidekick from the guy during that...and she is finished. I did like her change of tempo bounces to advance though.

I'd prefer to see her fight another girl of the black belt level to really judge.
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