Weight-lifting for under 16

ad · Brown Belt

hey all,
i always wanted to weight lift, with me seeing all my friends of the same age weightlifting and noticing how when i used to beat them in arm wrestles, that now, i dont even stand a chance against them,
i am only 14, and i am told by every medical proffesional that weightlifitng at your age is very unhealthy, though the people at the same age who i see doing this, look fine, and have benefited from weightlifting considerably, the medical professionals suggest that i should only weightlift when i am at least sixteen, which i have decided to do, i still keep to the regular press ups, crunches and use of a punch bag everyday, but i keep off the dumb bells or any weights,
i wonder if you guys could put in some input for me about this discussion, why is weightlifting at this age so dangerous
your help would be most appreciated
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[ This Message was edited by: ad on 2001-12-29 10:01 ]

Jiggy9 · Purple Belt

I was going to write a long winded story and explanation but I changed my mind.

Basically, you dont need to do weights to be strong ad. So why take unnecessary risks?

The strongest guy I've ever known has never done weights in his life.... and just so you know he put down every gym maniac at an one of their regular ego contests in a bar, oh I mean arm wrestling bouts after they mocked him. He works out for 2 hours straight practically every day, but all he does is assorted push ups, pull ups and other isometric and strength focused excersises.

You could do a quick search on the net for arm wrestling tips, and there are several minor adjusments one can make, such as angle of arm and wrist which can really raise ones game... Just a link :

http://molasar.blackmagic.com/ses/wrest/tips/wrestips.html

http://www.sportsfansofamerica.com/Links/Wrestling/Arm1.htm

Hope that helps

[ This Message was edited by: Jiggy9 on 2001-12-29 12:12 ]

muaythaidm · Orange Belt

I have heard that people at or around your age ad should not lift weights because if can hurt or stunt your bone structure. When you get older it wont hurt your bone structue because you arent growing as fast. That is what i hear anywhay.

Ahazmaksya · Orange Belt

...Can somone list all of the excercises they know that doesn't involve equipment for the Upperbody. Because all I really know is push ups for your pecs.

MuayTB1 · Brown Belt

Go lift dude! I read MH-18, men's health magizn for teens and they say it is not bad for you.

Don't be the one looking weak, go train with med weights, not to heavy.

ad · Brown Belt

no offence, but the information in magazines is slightly sceptical, from the information i have been given from docters, and professionals they had given me a clear NO, therefore it would be better to be on the safe side

though i am still yet to be convinced to why it is bad for you,
any other offers
i really appreciate the replys comming through

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SaiFightsMS · KF VIP

I will try to give you an idea of some simple body weight exercises Ad.

Pushups: work the push muscles, chest and triceps primarily. Hand wider apart works the outer areas of the chest. Hands close in under the chest -usually in a triangle- works the center of the chest.

Hand stands: doing a pushup while up against the wall in a handstand works the shoulders like a militairy press does.

Pullups: work the pull muscles the back and biceps primarily. Changing the position of the hands and which direction the hands face change how the muscle's are worked. Done with palms facing you the biceps are really worked hard.

Someplace else in here is a rundown on all sorts of different ways to do pushups kickchick wrote. It is really pretty awesome. Try to find that.

ad · Brown Belt

yeah i know which post you are talking about, ill post it, here again, in courtesy of kickchick of course, all credit goes to her.....

quoted from kick chick

...anyways, yes push ups are always thrown in for punishment...maybe that is why most of us "bad" guys hate them so.
I found that if you vary the type of push ups you do...the better it is to get through them.
1. Standard
2. finger tip
3. two fingers
4. knuckle (use first two knuckles)
5. on back of wrists/hands with fingers pointing away from you, to the front
6. on back of wrists/hands with fingers pointing inward towards each other
7. on back of wrists/hands with fingers pointing towards you, to the back
8. on back of wrists/hands with fingers pointing outward
9. Feet on wall pushups. Feet are pressed against wall about two feet from floor height
10. Arched up pushups. Like chinese pushups, but hands form a triangle which you try to touch your nose in.
11. Handstand pushups. Use wall to keep balance.
12. Plyometric pushups
13. Clapping pushups
14. One hand pushups
15. Korean pushups. With feet spread wide apart and hand placed out in front so that your back is parallel with the ground, shift your body forward and down and then upward. Reverse the motion to go back.
16. Zen pushups. Lay flat on your stomach, hands flat on floor above your head with arms slightly bent. Then push up. These are very difficult and take much practice.
17. Wheel barrow, run & hop. Do wheel barrow with person holding your legs, resisting you as you pull yourself forward hand over hand or two handed hops.
18. Dip chair pushups. With your body between two chairs and your hands on the chair closest to them lower yourself down and then push up. Keep leg out in front of you.
19. Rolling knuckle pushups. Start with forearms on ground with fists pointing inward towards each other. Roll fists inward so that you end up on the first two knuckles.
20. Boxing pushups. Alternating one arm pushups.
21. Chinese pushups. First stand with feet shoulder with apart or less. Lean forward until your hand touch the ground while keeping legs straight. Now lower yourself and then pushup. Seems to use the shoulders quite a bit.

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g · Yellow Belt

take up a very physical sport and you will be guaranteed to gain strength.
try rugby or football(american)

KickChick · Black Belt

Here is some more infor for you ad ... and many thanks for posting my push up post

Many medical sports specialists used to fear potential bone injury in kids who lifted weights, but these same fears are outweighed by the physical benefits of weight training.

Bone health is tremendously important ... particularly in girls ...and osteoporosis has been called a "pediatric disease" by many physicians because youngsters don't get involved enough in weight bearing activities in their developmental years.

Bone maturity involves the progression towards a fully ossified skeleton (completion of bone growth), which includes the sealing of growth plates and appropriate bone mineralization (the deposition of minerals in bone to increase bone density and strength).

Kids who have less than normal bone density are more prone to skeletal injury, particularly in athletic endeavors demanding high force effort, including but not limited to gymnastics, football, basketball and hockey. Also under this umbrella would be tennis, baseball and weight lifting.

There is no doubt lifting weight can help all young people but it is critical they are taught correct technique and are aware of their own limitations.

In general a 12-year-old would not be given the same kind of routine as a 14-year-old, and the 14-year-old would be handled differently from 18-year-old teenagers.

Two of the most publicized injuries specific to kids are Osgood-Schlatter's disease and damage to the epiphyseal plates (growth plates). These can both be serious problems if not treated early and in the case of the latter can cause permanent damage resulting in inappropriate and diminished growth in the "long bones" of the skeleton (arms and legs).

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