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Safroot
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 22 Dec 2013
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Location: Sydney, Australia
Styles: Kyokushin
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 5:43 pm Post subject: What are the legal restriction for possessing weapons ? |
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In my previous thread :
http://www.karateforums.com/when-to-start-weapons-training-vt46512.html
This issue was raised and I thought it would be good to share together,
What are the legal restrictions of Possessing or training with weapons in your country/state ? and if possession is not allowed, is practice in the dojo without practicing at home enough ?!
Unfortunately, here in Australia possessing is pretty restricted but I am not sure if there is any single weapon permitted in Australia or not ??!! _________________ "The Martial Arts begin with a point and end in a circle."
Sosai Mas Oyama founder of Kyokushin Karate. |
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sensei8
KF Sensei
Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 16420
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Nunchaku's, California Law, for example...
PENAL CODE
SECTION 22010-22090
22010. Except as provided in Section 22015 and Chapter 1
(commencing with Section 17700) of Division 2 of Title 2, any person
in this state who manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports
into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who
gives, lends, or possesses any nunchaku is punishable by
imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or imprisonment
pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170.
22015. Section 22010 does not apply to either of the following:
(a) The possession of a nunchaku on the premises of a school that
holds a regulatory or business license and teaches the arts of
self-defense.
(b) The manufacture of a nunchaku for sale to, or the sale of a
nunchaku to, a school that holds a regulatory or business license and
teaches the arts of self-defense.
22090. Except as provided in Section 22015 and in Chapter 1
(commencing with Section 17700) of Division 2 of Title 2, any
nunchaku is a nuisance and is subject to Section 18010.
Like MA weapons carry the same California Laws. Legality in the United States varies at the state level. New York, Arizona, California, and Massachusetts have made possession of MA weapons unlawful.
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Nidan Melbourne
KF Sempai
Joined: 21 Aug 2013
Posts: 2357
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Styles: Goju-Ryu, BJJ, Balintawak Arnis
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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I live in Australia as well Safroot. It is very restricted yes but there are some allowances for possession of weapons, but you require the police commissioners permission to own it.
You need to be careful about what weapons you wish to use. I know eskrima sticks are allowable but obviously you have to prove that your intentions are for training.
Which state do you live in? Here is the link for Victoria Police of what is prohibited http://www.police.vic.gov.au/content.asp?Document_ID=25574 |
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Safroot
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 22 Dec 2013
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Location: Sydney, Australia
Styles: Kyokushin
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Nidan Melbourne wrote: |
I live in Australia as well Safroot. It is very restricted yes but there are some allowances for possession of weapons, but you require the police commissioners permission to own it.
You need to be careful about what weapons you wish to use. I know eskrima sticks are allowable but obviously you have to prove that your intentions are for training.
Which state do you live in? Here is the link for Victoria Police of what is prohibited http://www.police.vic.gov.au/content.asp?Document_ID=25574 |
Thx so much for your help, i live in NSW so I guess it might be different i have to check _________________ "The Martial Arts begin with a point and end in a circle."
Sosai Mas Oyama founder of Kyokushin Karate. |
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Nidan Melbourne
KF Sempai
Joined: 21 Aug 2013
Posts: 2357
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Styles: Goju-Ryu, BJJ, Balintawak Arnis
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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Safroot wrote: |
Nidan Melbourne wrote: |
I live in Australia as well Safroot. It is very restricted yes but there are some allowances for possession of weapons, but you require the police commissioners permission to own it.
You need to be careful about what weapons you wish to use. I know eskrima sticks are allowable but obviously you have to prove that your intentions are for training.
Which state do you live in? Here is the link for Victoria Police of what is prohibited http://www.police.vic.gov.au/content.asp?Document_ID=25574 |
Thx so much for your help, i live in NSW so I guess it might be different i have to check |
Check with NSW Police then. Go into your local station and ask for their seargant or most senior staff on duty, and they should be able to help. Otherwise go through the Police Website (http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/) Usually they are normally quite helpful. |
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Safroot
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 22 Dec 2013
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Location: Sydney, Australia
Styles: Kyokushin
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Nidan Melbourne wrote: |
Safroot wrote: |
Nidan Melbourne wrote: |
I live in Australia as well Safroot. It is very restricted yes but there are some allowances for possession of weapons, but you require the police commissioners permission to own it.
You need to be careful about what weapons you wish to use. I know eskrima sticks are allowable but obviously you have to prove that your intentions are for training.
Which state do you live in? Here is the link for Victoria Police of what is prohibited http://www.police.vic.gov.au/content.asp?Document_ID=25574 |
Thx so much for your help, i live in NSW so I guess it might be different i have to check |
Check with NSW Police then. Go into your local station and ask for their seargant or most senior staff on duty, and they should be able to help. Otherwise go through the Police Website (http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/) Usually they are normally quite helpful. |
Thanks so much for your help, I will _________________ "The Martial Arts begin with a point and end in a circle."
Sosai Mas Oyama founder of Kyokushin Karate. |
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Nidan Melbourne
KF Sempai
Joined: 21 Aug 2013
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
Styles: Goju-Ryu, BJJ, Balintawak Arnis
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Most welcome! |
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Spartacus Maximus
Black Belt
Joined: 01 Jun 2014
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Styles: Shorin ryu
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:46 am Post subject: |
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Weapons are always going to be regulated and controlled to some degree in any modern civilized society. This is obvious for firearms but should also be expected for weapons that are unusual and not commonly seen.
People fear what they don't understand so it is not unusual for exotic martial arts weapons to be more strictly regulated than guns. In some places guns may be easily owned legally whereas nunchaku are fully prohibited. For some reason the public and the law sees that weapon as more dangerous than an automatic pistol.
This is why I think owning martial arts weapons is not worth the hassles of requesting permission or justifying it to a legal authority. I advise caution and precautions. For example:
Keep your weapons locked up and out of sight when not practicing
Don't display them or show them to casual observers or people who are not involved in martial arts.
Hide them of you must carry them to and from your training place.
Do not ever practise with them outside where passersby may see you. Even In your own yard.
Finally, if it has any sharp point or edges then you can assume its illegal or very strictly controlled. Best not own any of those.
I learned this from an unfortunate incident when I was I Uni a few years ago. I had to run after a busybody called the campus police because she saw me quietly practising with tonfa. I didn't wait for them to arrive because I was not willing to explain. After that rude interruption, I stayed away from that part of campus and kept all my training secret.
Anyway, you will get the most accurate answer by asking the authorities directly. |
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Wastelander
KF Sensei
Joined: 18 Oct 2010
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Location: Phoenix, AZ
Styles: Shorin-Ryu, Shuri-Ryu, Judo, KishimotoDi
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:07 am Post subject: |
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My state is so much easier than all of yours' . I can own and carry any weapon that isn't restricted by Federal law, and I can own and carry those, too, if I have the licenses to do so. _________________ Kishimoto-Di | 2014-Present | Sensei: Ulf Karlsson
Shorin-Ryu/Shinkoten Karate | 2010-Present: Yondan, Renshi | Sensei: Richard Poage (RIP), Jeff Allred (RIP)
Shuri-Ryu | 2006-2010: Sankyu | Sensei: Joey Johnston, Joe Walker (RIP)
Judo | 2007-2010: Gokyu | Sensei: Joe Walker (RIP), Ramon Rivera (RIP), Adrian Rivera
Illinois Practical Karate | International Neoclassical Karate Kobudo Society |
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Spartacus Maximus
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Styles: Shorin ryu
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:30 am Post subject: |
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You are lucky to have that freedom. I always assume the strictest regulations wherever I go. That way I can't be wrong. It's always a good idea to assume weapons are strictly controlled. |
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