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K4j4 S1n1s
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2002 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello forum

Matt Thornton wrote...

YOU, the "I" that is (your name here). . is what?
You say "I" am attractive
"I" am smart
"I" am this
"I" am that
etc. .

In comparison to what? You must evaluate yourself against something in order to define yourself. If you ceased that evaluation only for a MOMENT. Just a brief SECOND. . .then , you would see that "YOU" create time, which is movement, which is thought.

There is NO "reality" without "YOU"
No OBSERVED without an OBSERVER.

No "world" "reality" "nature" without. . .YOU!

So you say. . ..that's *. Reality is just my "thought". What crap! In other words. . .if a tree falls in the woods. . .and nobody is there to here it. No "YOU", no "MY NAME HERE", it still makes noise, right?

Wrong. It only becomes noise when it's 'vibrations' reach "YOUR" ear and become sound.

Falling rocks are NOISY because of YOUR ears.
Things are HEAVY only when compared to YOUR muscles.
Things are HARD only when YOU touches them.
Flowers smell good only when the YOU smells them.
Light is LIGHT only when it reaches YOUR eyes.

With NO YOU there is NO sound, smell, weight, texture, or light.

If I say to you. . .

A) When you die you will forget your memory of "your" life, and be re-born as a new baby.

Would you believe me? Please ask yourself. . .would you believe me?

I say this because I now think I can prove it is so.

If I say to you. . .

B) When you die, all of "your" memory will completely cease, and a baby will be born.

Is that true? You know it is so!
That is a reality. YOU will die, and somewhere a baby will be born that knows none of your memories.

Now I ask you this. . . .please follow along . . .I know you ARE......... smart. . .so please follow along. If that above stated sentence is so. . .if YOU will die, and babies will born that do not know YOUR memory. . . . .

THEN WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO???? Between A and B?

When you see that you will see that YOU live forever.

K4J4

[ This Message was edited by: K4j4 S1n1s on 2002-06-17 02:53 ]
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Ti-Kwon-Leap
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2002 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your entire diatribe is based on YOUR beliefs.
Sound waves exist WITHOUT you, along with light, heat and yes, even objects.
The theory about you being born into a new baby's body has absolutely no basis in fact whatsoever. With the population growing at an astounding rate, where praytell are these "new souls" coming from???
You said that you could prove your theories.
Let's hear some proof.

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K4j4 S1n1s
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2002 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty much the response I expected. Physical, always the physical. Don't you realise there is so much more?

By the way I'm quoting someone. I didn't write that. I appologise for that.

I'll edit my original to reflect that.

K4J4
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2002 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard the very things you described since I was a small child.
My mother was one of those people who believed every thing she read about reincarnation, etc.
Just because so called "knowledge" comes from the east, well that doesn't necessarily make it either mystical or correct.
I am not trying to change your beliefs, I just personally haven't heard any explaination of just how such knowledge was attained.
Supposedly some enlightened being saw the "truth", wrote it down and now you are presenting it as fact. If I am wrong, tell me.



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Degrading each other isn't getting y'all anywhere. I recommend the Tibetian Book of the Living and Dead.

I believe 'you' can be measured against only one thing: 'yourself'. The only time it matters what you are is when you compare yourself to others. That is subjective, and will teach nothing. What one should focus on is improving on what he/she was before. Can you kick up to your shoulder height? Then it doesn't matter how high your friend can kick. What matters is that you're kicking shoulder height when you could be kicking past your head. C'mon, fights are an ugly thing in any form. Read the book I recommended, and before anyone gets skeptical, it has some very solid medical basis, so although it is arranged in a mystical manner, it is, in truth, very scientifically oriented.

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