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bushido_man96
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely right on, RichardZ.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok atleast they did not call it a concealed weapons...How is a sword a knife? And how could it be dangerous in public if you have is strapped to your side. They are gonna see it and can probably shoot you before you get close enough to try to hack away at someone...and I have a Wakizashi made in 1924 does that mean I can carry it with me?

And what is a samurai sword to them?...If I have a bud K ninja toh in my house would I get arrested?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tonydee wrote:
And a samurai sword from before 1954 is presumably hand made and worth a fortune... only the well-off would own one, or those who took one from a Japanese officer during the war, and war vets and the wealthy aren't proper targets for law makers....

And to be entirely fair, they're also pretty far from the demographic most likely to commit an assault with an edged weapon.
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Spodo Komodo
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw the aftermath of a battle between some Iraqui's and Turks in Nottingham a few years ago. It was hilarious, there were broken Battle Orders cheapo "katanas" everywhere. Some of the most seriously wounded had fractures from being battered by the tinplate saya after the owner had waved his sword enthusiastically and the blade had flown off into the distance.

These "decorative use only" swords being used to intimidate and in a very few cases wound (where people have the wherewithall to fit a new tsuka and mekugi-peg) have been all the reason MPs needed to remove swords from sale or use.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds familiar.

In Australia, owning a pair of nunchaku without a permit from the Dept. Firearms (yes- you read that correctly) gets you the same fines/potential sentence as an illegal 9mm handgun........
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yamesu wrote:
Sounds familiar.

In Australia, owning a pair of nunchaku without a permit from the Dept. Firearms (yes- you read that correctly) gets you the same fines/potential sentence as an illegal 9mm handgun........


*Slaps Forehead*
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Groinstrike wrote:
yamesu wrote:
Sounds familiar.

In Australia, owning a pair of nunchaku without a permit from the Dept. Firearms (yes- you read that correctly) gets you the same fines/potential sentence as an illegal 9mm handgun........


*Slaps Forehead*


Australia is trying hard to prevent that very thing.

But, seriously, that is obnoxious.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MasterPain wrote:
Groinstrike wrote:
yamesu wrote:
Sounds familiar.

In Australia, owning a pair of nunchaku without a permit from the Dept. Firearms (yes- you read that correctly) gets you the same fines/potential sentence as an illegal 9mm handgun........


*Slaps Forehead*


Australia is trying hard to prevent that very thing.

But, seriously, that is obnoxious.


I blame Bruce Lee wanna-be's. Nunchaku aren't (in the greater scheme of things) even all that effective! Its just the perception that they are dangerous....
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Its also a similar story for swpord here, various states gradually phased in laws preventing the sale of sowrds without permits.
I used to be able to go into my local MA Store and buy a Paul Chen straight over the counter.... Now its a mission to get a decent Daito. It is the same with a lot of knives (anything spring loaded, balisongs etc).

I dont blame the UK for going this way.
In a way I commend it. There is considerably low levels of weapon related crime in Oz, but if people want a weapon, they will find a way!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RichardZ wrote:
This is very interesting. Because as those maybe lobbying against guns, and strict laws thereof, in other places, the same is done upon other weapons. I think lawmakers just cant get it, it isnt the weapon that commits the crime. Criminals are going to commit a crime with whatever is available. AND, they would be the ones who have illegal weapons in the first place. This is why they are called 'criminals". They are not concerned with laws.


excellent! Agreed 100% there is a saying that I like "if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns" seems to ring true in this case too.
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