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Prototype
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:07 pm Post subject: What safety precautions do boxing gyms take to allow sparrin |
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Are you allowed to go for full contact blows against each other, or what should I expect in a few months when I finally get to spar?
Boxing doesn't really make sense if not performed full contact, but that means risking knockouts and health.
Are you allowed to punch as hard as you can in sparring or how do boxing instructors deal with this risk? |
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mkdaggy
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:33 am Post subject: |
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In my experience, it depends on the gym and those training in it. I would suggest watching how the regulars spar and asking them. I would usually spar with anyone but mainly those who were preparing for a fight, as they wanted to get work in and weren't throwing every punch with knock out intentions. It wasn't "powderpuffing" and it wasn't 100% all of the time.
If someone went in and tried knocking people out, they would usually be labeled and people would either avoid them or give them a beating. My approach was to be respectful to all I worked with and I never had any issues and got plenty of great sparring in. If I hurt someone I would back off and make sure they were ok to continue. Again, it really depends on the gym and who you are training with.
One thing I noticed was that newer guys would sometimes start out going very hard and then gass in the second round. And guess what, they would then get what they dished out and more. Ask those at the gym and be respectful and humble and you should be fine...all things considered. |
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sensei8
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Yeah...ask the gym owner!! We might steer you the wrong way because we're not...well...them!!
My days with Eric Nolan and Kathy Long were that much of what you're asking dependent on experience levels. Things were gradual, especially if they didn't know you!! Once trust and experience was established, then contact was increased.
Besides, any gym worth its salt will put safety above all things, this I've seen with my own eyes. Head gear is worn pretty much all of the time. But, I've seen fighters KO'd while wearing that same head gear.
Ask the gym for clarifications, not speculations!!
_________________ **Proof is on the floor!!! |
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Prototype
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:10 am Post subject: |
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mkdaggy wrote: |
In my experience, it depends on the gym and those training in it. I would suggest watching how the regulars spar and asking them. I would usually spar with anyone but mainly those who were preparing for a fight, as they wanted to get work in and weren't throwing every punch with knock out intentions. It wasn't "powderpuffing" and it wasn't 100% all of the time.
If someone went in and tried knocking people out, they would usually be labeled and people would either avoid them or give them a beating. My approach was to be respectful to all I worked with and I never had any issues and got plenty of great sparring in. If I hurt someone I would back off and make sure they were ok to continue. Again, it really depends on the gym and who you are training with.
One thing I noticed was that newer guys would sometimes start out going very hard and then gass in the second round. And guess what, they would then get what they dished out and more. Ask those at the gym and be respectful and humble and you should be fine...all things considered. |
The ones I've seen sparred lighter than in my TaeKwondo school. |
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bushido_man96
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Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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I think they spar a lot, but do different types of sparring. Sometimes going light and getting combo work in, or other times just working the mitts or the bags.
I'm sure sometimes the sparring contact is kicked up a few notches, because that's the game, but its too risky to do that all the time. _________________ www.haysgym.com
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singularity6
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With all the talk about CTEs in the media lately, I don't know why anyone would want to go full contact with boxing, or any other sport. There's tremendous risk with getting repeatedly knocked in the head. _________________ 5th Geup Jidokwan Tae Kwon Do/Hap Ki Do
(Never officially tested in aikido, iaido or kendo) |
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Prototype
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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singularity6 wrote: |
With all the talk about CTEs in the media lately, I don't know why anyone would want to go full contact with boxing, or any other sport. There's tremendous risk with getting repeatedly knocked in the head. |
There's nothing going to waste in my case. And sparring on the gym is not going to cause any CTE in me. I stick and jab and protect myself behind 16 Oz gloves. |
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neoravencroft
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Prototype wrote: |
singularity6 wrote: |
With all the talk about CTEs in the media lately, I don't know why anyone would want to go full contact with boxing, or any other sport. There's tremendous risk with getting repeatedly knocked in the head. |
There's nothing going to waste in my case. And sparring on the gym is not going to cause any CTE in me. I stick and jab and protect myself behind 16 Oz gloves. |
Not to mention there's certain gyms that utilize headgear. _________________ "When I have listened to my mistakes, I have grown." ~Bruce Lee |
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singularity6
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:07 am Post subject: |
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Protective gear certainly helps, and if I were to go all-out full-contact, then yeah, I'd prefer to wear that gear.
That being said, protective gear only helps to reduce the risk. _________________ 5th Geup Jidokwan Tae Kwon Do/Hap Ki Do
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Prototype
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:35 am Post subject: |
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Headgear does not prevent head trauma, the brain shakes regardless. Headgear is removed from the Boxing Olympics because studies found that they increase the risk for CTE. |
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