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mikeb87
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Joined: 14 Feb 2011
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Location: lantana TX
Styles: shudokan danzanryu jiu jitsu shorin ryu nanakyu
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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momiji hazushi |
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Kodiak
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Joined: 27 Jul 2011
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Styles: Kenpo Karate, Parkour.
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:42 am Post subject: |
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ideally: Easy groin shot, sweep my other arm against the choking arms (outward block motion) while I do the shot , then get the hell off my knees while clearing his arms.
It took me a whole 30 seconds to come up with all that though, which is too long, so probably just a repeated groin shot in a real situation. |
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MasterPain
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Joined: 26 Oct 2010
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Location: Parts Unknown
Styles: Bujin Bugei Jutsu, Backyard Kali, Satsui no Hadou
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:51 am Post subject: |
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Did you guys read the whole thread? I'm afraid you've missed the point.
That said, it's a crappy position for a 2 handed choke, and could be escaped in all sorts of ways. _________________ My fists bleed death. -Akuma |
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Kodiak
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:24 am Post subject: |
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I just think its more fun to see the different ways people would deal with a fairly easy scenario than address the insanity that lead to the thread.
And there's a good position for a two handed choke? |
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MasterPain
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:39 am Post subject: |
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Kodiak wrote: |
And there's a good position for a two handed choke? |
Mounted, as a setup for an armbar. _________________ My fists bleed death. -Akuma |
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mikeb87
Yellow Belt
Joined: 14 Feb 2011
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Location: lantana TX
Styles: shudokan danzanryu jiu jitsu shorin ryu nanakyu
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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wouldn't a two handed choke from mount be setting yourself up for an arm bar? |
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MasterPain
Black Belt
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Styles: Bujin Bugei Jutsu, Backyard Kali, Satsui no Hadou
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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No, a person who is mounted has no way of bringing their legs or hips into the equation. They have no fulcrum to work with.
A 2 handed choke from mount forces a person to defend with their hands and arms, thereby giving you the opportunity to seize an elbow, shift to side mount, frame on arm and head and slide a leg over.
2 handed chokes are rude, and if you're going to do it, keep the pressure on the arteries and off of the trachea. Don't hurt your training partners. _________________ My fists bleed death. -Akuma |
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Kuma
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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MasterPain wrote: |
No, a person who is mounted has no way of bringing their legs or hips into the equation. They have no fulcrum to work with.
A 2 handed choke from mount forces a person to defend with their hands and arms, thereby giving you the opportunity to seize an elbow, shift to side mount, frame on arm and head and slide a leg over.
2 handed chokes are rude, and if you're going to do it, keep the pressure on the arteries and off of the trachea. Don't hurt your training partners. |
Getting both your hands tied up on their throat is basically giving them an easy sweep though I'd think. |
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Sokusen
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Joined: 29 Apr 2009
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Styles: Uechi-ryu
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Most two handed chokes are due to a crime of passion and people usually aren't thinking about what they are doing except trying to squeeze the life out of someone. Which is why I think most people have a hard time putting them selves in the position of the aggressor. I think the form of question has merit but the attack in the scenario leads people into thinking themselves as the victim. If you were to change the attack to a punch or a kick or even a simple push it would be less leading. |
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MasterPain
Black Belt
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Styles: Bujin Bugei Jutsu, Backyard Kali, Satsui no Hadou
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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You mean the urge to use the Homer Strangle Technique isn't normal? _________________ My fists bleed death. -Akuma |
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