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BlueDragon1981
Red Belt
Joined: 01 Jul 2002
Posts: 779
Location: USA
Styles: Goshin Jutsu Karate, Shotokan
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2002 10:44 am Post subject: |
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Just asking. Judo is a type of grappling art that was ment to be a safer way of practicing Jui-jitsu. It is a sport now but does have some very good pricibles that can be helpful. (as do all arts.) |
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KickChick
Black Belt
Joined: 02 Aug 2001
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Taikudo-ka
Green Belt
Joined: 20 Mar 2002
Posts: 450
Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2002 1:40 am Post subject: |
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A side-effect of long-term Olympianism perhaps?
I imagine that to young American kids today, "ju jutsu" sounds more like an exotic and effective self defense system, while "judo", which reminds them of "amateur athletes" in the Olympics rolling around on a mat for a gold medal.
Perhaps an unfair assessment, considering the depth of Kano's original system, and the effectiveness it demonstrated against jujutsu. |
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three60roundhouse
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Joined: 10 Jan 2002
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Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2002 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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On 2002-07-08 03:40, Taikudo-ka wrote:
Perhaps an unfair assessment, considering the depth of Kano's original system, and the effectiveness it demonstrated against jujutsu.
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I think we are forgetting Maedo's sort of misnomer, calling BJJ BJJ instead of South Amerixcan Judo or something, because besically it is a direct descendant, just modified by the Gracies. |
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Taikudo-ka
Green Belt
Joined: 20 Mar 2002
Posts: 450
Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 12:39 am Post subject: |
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I heard that Kano himself didn't want them calling it Judo. Judo also came out of Jujutsu. I guess he thought they were taking it "back" to a "jutsu" style with what they were doing, rather than following a "modern" budo path. Plus he didn't want anyone else calling their own style "judo", unless they were part of his organization and practised the "official" style.
Hence the Gracie's had no choice but to call it BJJ.
But perhaps that's all part of it, as you say. Certainly the success of BJJ must have rubbed off on "traditional" ju-jutsu schools a bit - just by virtue of the name association.
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