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Alan Armstrong
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 Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:31 pm Post subject: Wing Chun Ip Man |
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IP Man (RIP) with his destiny and personal responsibility of spreading Wing Chun throughout the world, he has most definitely left behind a great legacy.
As he was teaching the future Wing Chun masters, controversy has crept in.
Todays Masters of Wing Chun may not see eye to eye on techniques that they have learned, that has now been passed on to their students.
The reason for theses differences of techniques is because all of the Wing Chun masters were not all taught at the same time, also the length of time learning with IP Man will differ.
Ip Man was evolving his techniques and changing them over the years. So depending if a student of his was learning earlier techniques or mid career or his later years there will be significant differences.
Personally I welcome all of the variations that Wing Chun masters teach. Hopefully my approach is more of value than the faction way. It is far more interesting for me to see and recognize the earlier and the latter Wing Chun differences.
As these differences (of ways of doing) will become more obvious over time, there will be certainty those that see their way of Wing Chun is better than the other Wing Chun practitioners.
A Wing Chun practioner's style may differ from that found in the "IP Man" movies. This doesn't imply that if it is different then it must be wrong. Could be that your master was taught in the early "Ip Man" Wing Chun style.
Wing Chun history is also another point of controversy. Something can be learned from the variety of stories that surround Wing Chun, this is the reason why these stories have lasted and have been past on for many generations.
The stories and theories that are attached to Wing Chun are just as important as the fighting aspects, they hold important details that will help a student develop a deeper appreciation for Wing Chun and an understanding for Ip Man's generosity as a Grand Master. |
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mandarin
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Location: Singapore
Styles: goju, wado
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There are many Ip Man movies. The ones starring Donnie Yen-甄子丹 are popular because they are filled with action. However, the plots are over-sensationalised.
For a more accurate portrayal of Ip Man's life, you can watch the movie acted by Anthony Perry-黃秋生  |
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Dani_001
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Joined: 08 Jan 2014
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Location: Cape Town, South Africa
Styles: Okinawa Goju-Ryu Karatedo Kyokai
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Is this why his arch rival in the third movie with Mike Tyson asks him that question how he was trained?
I can't remember what he asked but it was based on authenticity.
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Alan Armstrong
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| Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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Is this why his arch rival in the third movie with Mike Tyson asks him that question how he was trained?
I can't remember what he asked but it was based on authenticity. |
Regarding the Ip Man trilogy, they the producers, are out to make entertaining movies and not boring documentaries.
There is artistic license in these movies, better to enjoy them for their entertainment value than for their historical accuracy. |
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Spartacus Maximus
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| Watching any historically-based movie and expecting accuracy of facts is almost always a disappointment. The key words "based on" is a clear indication that the production is meant to be entertainment. A documentary is far more likely to present accurate facts. Then again even those are hardly free from biases and often do not show everything from every angle. That would take far too much time to cover in a single production. |
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Alan Armstrong
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Spartacus Maximus wrote: |
| Watching any historically-based movie and expecting accuracy of facts is almost always a disappointment. The key words "based on" is a clear indication that the production is meant to be entertainment. A documentary is far more likely to present accurate facts. Then again even those are hardly free from biases and often do not show everything from every angle. That would take far too much time to cover in a single production. |
Very true Spartacus.
It is actually sad that stories about important martial art figures such as Ip Man and Bruce Lee are distorted to sell movie tickets.
The movie industry really stretch out there artistic license to the max.
Could also do with alot less suspended wire special effects in MA movies, that belong more appropriately in Superman movies. |
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LLLEARNER
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Location: Central Maine
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There used to be a show on the History Channel that looked at movies based on true events.
If I remember correctly the most accurate one they found was "To Hell and Back". They had people who were there as a guest audience and they said, if anything Audie Murphy downplayed his role in events.
Edit: It was History vs. Hollywood
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Alan Armstrong
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| Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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| LLLEARNER wrote: |
There used to be a show on the History Channel that looked at movies based on true events.
If I remember correctly the most accurate one they found was "To Hell and Back". They had people who were there as a guest audience and they said, if anything Audie Murphy downplayed his role in events.
Edit: It was History vs. Hollywood |
History vs Hollywood
IP Man review:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=huk8g7fMfYs |
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james001
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I watched IP man movie and I loved it. Wonder if the actor Donnie Yen is really a martial artist. The fight between Ip man and Mike Tyson seems entertaining though Ip Man vs Bruce Lee would be the best. Looking forward to Donnie Yen and Jet Li movie together.
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