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Spartacus Maximus
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Joined: 01 Jun 2014
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Styles: Shorin ryu
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Agreed about the insurance issue. Even Olympic boxing requires the boxers to wear that protective headgear. Sparring without padding has the advantage of being as close as possible to the reality of physical conflict. It also allows the practicioner to feel correct techniques and develop proper movement unhindered.
On the other hand it is a high injury risk activity and requires one to be in complete control with the highest degree of concentration. It is cringe-worthy to imagine the kind of injuries that would result from a TKD match where one or both lacked adequate control. |
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DWx
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Joined: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 6452
Location: UK
Styles: Tae Kwon Do & Yang family Tai Chi
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| Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Spartacus Maximus wrote: |
Agreed about the insurance issue. Even Olympic boxing requires the boxers to wear that protective headgear. Sparring without padding has the advantage of being as close as possible to the reality of physical conflict. It also allows the practicioner to feel correct techniques and develop proper movement unhindered.
On the other hand it is a high injury risk activity and requires one to be in complete control with the highest degree of concentration. It is cringe-worthy to imagine the kind of injuries that would result from a TKD match where one or both lacked adequate control. |
Actually Olympic boxing ditched the headgear after 2012 as they deemed it safer for the fighters. (Headgear was leading to more sub-concussive blows). Interestingly enough in the new events without the headgear there seems to be far more cuts and scraps to the face.
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
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Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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| I think TKD could make a better showing in the Olympics if they dropped the chest protectors. Then, strategies would change somewhat, and the matches would be much more interesting. If TKD did that, then I don't think they would have to worry about the idea of being replaced or removed. |
Ooohhhh, I don't think insurance companies would like that at all.
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In the 90's, there was an Olympic style TKD pro league on ESPN without hogus, headgear or gloves. You can find them on Youtube. The best fight of the fights was a 120 lb fight between Hyon LEE vs. Danny KIM. I encourage all to look it up.  |
PRO TKD is what it was called, I believe. There were some good fights there.
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sensei8
KF Sensei
Joined: 23 Feb 2008
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Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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| Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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| bushido_man96 wrote: |
| I think TKD could make a better showing in the Olympics if they dropped the chest protectors. Then, strategies would change somewhat, and the matches would be much more interesting. If TKD did that, then I don't think they would have to worry about the idea of being replaced or removed. |
Ooohhhh, I don't think insurance companies would like that at all.
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In the 90's, there was an Olympic style TKD pro league on ESPN without hogus, headgear or gloves. You can find them on Youtube. The best fight of the fights was a 120 lb fight between Hyon LEE vs. Danny KIM. I encourage all to look it up. |
PRO TKD is what it was called, I believe. There were some good fights there. |
Here I am wondering what happened to PRO TKD? Rage of the page or insurance companies put their foot down and said..."NO MORE!!"
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DWx
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ITF also started up a Pro TKD which ran a few years ago. Full contact but with gloves. Idea was to turn it into a spectator sport much like boxing or MMA and attract new fans.
https://youtu.be/Oq1d4Ffi5DM
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sensei8
KF Sensei
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Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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ITF also started up a Pro TKD which ran a few years ago. Full contact but with gloves. Idea was to turn it into a spectator sport much like boxing or MMA and attract new fans.
https://youtu.be/Oq1d4Ffi5DM |
Aha...a PKA version...Kickboxing!
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bushido_man96
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Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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singularity6
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 26 Jun 2017
Posts: 958
Location: Michigan
Styles: Jidokwan Taekwondo and Hapkido, Yoshokai Aikido, ZNIR Iaido, Kendo
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It looked like this thread could use an update. As many of you probably read, the re-branding happened last month!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Taekwondo
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