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Karateka_latino
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2001 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi!
I was watching a wu shu Forms competition.
It was a good show, fast and flashy. Very strong and flexible performers and lots of weapons.
But i'm wondering if All those things are REAL martial arts or it can be used for real. Some people Say Yes, other said NO. some people thinks Wu Shu is modern Kung Fu, Other say that its only and Sport for a few young ones.
What do you think my friends??
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2001 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correction
" I'm wondering if all those things are REAL martial arts AND can be used for real fights".
LOL sorry for the mistake. i hope you understand now. lol
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2001 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would venture to guess that most of the fancy and flashy maneuvers have nothing to do with fighting. How often will a person have room enough to do all the acrobatics anyway? Also, it's very hard to do all of those things once the fight is on. Wushu is great for theatre and movies, but not for self-defense. If you're gonna take kung-fu, take something that is more for fighting.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2001 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to clarify 'wushu' translated is 'martial arts'. Brazilian Jujitsu can be called wushu, karate - wushu, and so on.

I teach shaolin wushu, and yes our style is very effective for real fights. Our ciriculum includes many weapons, but works under the philosiphy that students will learn one long weapon (staff, spade, kwan dao, spear), one medium (flex sword-knife, broadsword, nine-ring sword), one short (dagger, swung kung), and one flexible (whip chain, rope dart). Once you learn one of each there isn't much you cant use, even if you have never picked it up.

Several chinese arts are either poorly taught or misunderstood. Shaolin includes stand up, trapping, weapons, throw and grappling.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks good and fights good to. You can say that teakwondo is useless because it has alot of high kick and looks good.

The kick *!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he's talking about the Wushu competition that is out in China. It's basically a forms competition with lots of gymnastics mixed in. Many of the things in that Wushu system are not of any use for fighting, it's just really cool to watch.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Wushu system are not of any use for fighting, it's just really cool to watch"

I hope you are saying only "about the Wushu competition that is out in China"
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are talking about 'modern style' patterns, there is practical application for alot of the movements; however it is meant more as a demonstration sport.

Alot of schools that teach the contemporary patterns, also teach san shou fighters....
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is true, In China, San Shou is growing like cancer.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey!
So you learn everything on the same school?, i mean, The wushu forms and the san shou fighting..
Or the people who train in Sanshou Don't train in forms?
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