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White Warlock
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye, my sister used to sucker-kick me in the groin all the friggin' time. I became somewhat 'used' to it, and thus didn't react as the assailant expected when kicked in an actual confrontation. Instead, i stood there firmly and warned him never to strike me again.

Knees (side of), kneecaps (stepping), thighs (side or straight-in), shins (stepping/scraping) and feet (stepping) are better below-the-belt targets, and not as instinctually protected.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

good article
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

White Warlock wrote:
Aye, my sister used to sucker-kick me in the groin all the friggin' time. I became somewhat 'used' to it, and thus didn't react as the assailant expected when kicked in an actual confrontation. Instead, i stood there firmly and warned him never to strike me again.

Knees (side of), kneecaps (stepping), thighs (side or straight-in), shins (stepping/scraping) and feet (stepping) are better below-the-belt targets, and not as instinctually protected.


So you can say that groin shots are not as sensitive as people tend to believe, unless of course it depends on the reciever's tolerence
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm saying it's not worth the risk. A groin shot is pain 'only.' A knee, thigh, shin, or foot shot can disable an assailant, in addition to cause pain. Kicking someone in the gnads provides 'no' guarantee that they won't be able to recover and 'chase' you down. Break a foot and you 'can' be guaranteed, even if the pain is insufficient.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

White Warlock wrote:
I'm saying it's not worth the risk. A groin shot is pain 'only.' A knee, thigh, shin, or foot shot can disable an assailant, in addition to cause pain. Kicking someone in the gnads provides 'no' guarantee that they won't be able to recover and 'chase' you down. Break a foot and you 'can' be guaranteed, even if the pain is insufficient.


Yes I agree.
I have seen many groin shots on fights, thus making the "receiver" get more angry. Now you have a "different animal" on your hands.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:25 pm    Post subject: kick Reply with quote

When I was kicked up into my groin there was no lag time?!I was in absolute AGONY all at once,And totaly incompasitated for quite a while I have been hit all over my body over the years and by far the most painfull place for me to be hit is up into my groin........ no question!! But if I was kick in the groin hard enough to lift me of the ground I believe I would not be here right now

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the reaction to groin shots (in men in this case) differs greatly.

But I will say that as a woman, the groin is probably the least likely place for me to strike if attacked, unless they did something really stupid, because any man who attacks a woman is going to expect that. He probably wouldn't expect me to headbutt him and break his nose though.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm new to this forum so I just got to read the article but I must compliment the sender as it is very informative.

In our school, the kick that is practiced often most in our self defense portion is the groin kick. The second most often practiced kick is the knee kick.

As far as the effectiveness of the groin kick, I think a lot depends on the direction of the kick. A lot of people can handle straight on kicks to the groin but there are not too many (there are exceptions) that can handle a kick straight UP into the testicles.

A person high on drugs may not feel any pain (till he gets sober) no matter what you do, then you must try to disable him (joint breaks) or knock him out.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great article!

I give it a 9 out of 10
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, since we seem to be on the topic of groin striking . . .
I have been kicked in the groin a few times, and pretty hard too, and yes it hurt like *!%&, but it in no way incapacitated me and in fact I was able to continue without any problems. The aggravation was then certainly taken out on my opponent. I completely agree that if you want to stop someone from continuing a fight, a good knee strike or thigh strike is much more reliable, especially if bones are broken, or ligaments are torn. Also, the lower abdominals and solar plexus are a great target to stop someone in their tracks.
Coincidentally, and I can't remember what the name of the art is, but has anyone seen the style that treats pain like a learned behavior and teaches to supress it from the mind? I've seen videos of guys taking repeated blows to the groin, throat, and other regions and acting as though it never even happened. From what I've heard though, this training does not work when limbs are broken, or ligaments and muscles torn. It is only effective with surface pain. Anyone have any insight on this or the name of the style so I can do more research on it? Thanks.
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