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JohnnyS
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Treebranch is correct. BJJ will show you how to set up your strikes on the ground, and how to avoid them when doing a takedown but that's about it.
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TJS
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Joined: 27 Jan 2003
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Styles: boxing, Thai boxing, BJJ,
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| Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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| JohnnyS wrote: |
| Treebranch is correct. BJJ will show you how to set up your strikes on the ground, and how to avoid them when doing a takedown but that's about it. |
What about Royces infamous knee kick  |
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JohnnyS
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The kick is more of a way to set up the takedown by forcing the person to withdraw their forward leg thus bringing both of their feet together.
There is also the use of the heel stomp when getting back to your feet as used by Rickson against Funaki.
There are some strikes in BJJ, but it's a grappling based art more than a striking art.
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TJS
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| Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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The kick is more of a way to set up the takedown by forcing the person to withdraw their forward leg thus bringing both of their feet together.
There is also the use of the heel stomp when getting back to your feet as used by Rickson against Funaki.
There are some strikes in BJJ, but it's a grappling based art more than a striking art. |
Yes I know. Most of the strikes are to set something up. |
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Kirves
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| Sure, they don't focus on it as much as some other arts. But nevertheless, when they aren't practising for an upcoming tournament, they use strikes too. |
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Treebranch
Black Belt
Joined: 21 Mar 2003
Posts: 2279
Location: Glendale, California USA
Styles: Budo Taijutsu, Boxing,Lars Wallin BJJ, Machado Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Kung Fu San Soo, Lima Lama, Taekwondo
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I think since BJJ was introduced to the world by UFC things have changed a bit. Other fighters have found ways of countering the takedowns or simply the MMA's have become the norm for NHB fights. I think since BJJ is still a young art it should still be evolving and learning from it's short coming and adapt. I think they should go back to traditional Jujutsu and put some of the strikes back into it as well as some of the kicks. I think the Gracies came up with a very good grappling system but there is always room for improvement. I hope this doesn't offend anyone, I'm just giving an objective opinion. 
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btroadman
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Joined: 08 Jul 2003
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Location: Florida
Styles: TaeKwonDo, Kickboxing
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 8:59 am Post subject: Re: Brazilian Jujutsu |
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| Does bjj have any punches, kicks, knees, elbows or anything like that? Im thinking of taking it but i wont take an art unless it has striking. I used to take judo before muay thai and i didnt like it because there was no striking and it never seemed effiective in any of the fights i was in. But now my muay thai class is closing and im looking for something else and 2 different places have bjj. so does it? |
To answer the original question of this post......If you are looking for something along the MuyThai lines then just BJJ is not for you. You should definitely try a couple classes before you dismiss the idea solely on the basis that it has very few to no striking. You might be surprised how much you enjoy the art. If you need striking try a good Vale Tudo (Even though most don't consider it a martial art) school, at most of them they will include grappling and striking.
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Treebranch
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Yeah, if you are going to compete in NHB tournaments then Btroadman has a good point. If you don't want to mix MA's than just study MA's that are complete.
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Sens55
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Joined: 04 Jun 2003
Posts: 188
Location: Kansas City
Styles: MKD TKD & AJJ
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| There are other styles of Ju Jitsu besides BJJ. I went to a few months of training in BJJ but found a school closer that has "American Ju Jitsu". The ground stuff is basically the same but it also has elements of american boxing and kickboxing in it. Heck the first time I went I thought it was a boxing gym because that was the focus of that class. It's not as high profile as BJJ (in fact it's pretty small), but it's design was to make it more complete. |
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Treebranch
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So basically it's a MMA school they named American Ju Jitsu.
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on the post.
