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coltmakai
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Joined: 23 Jun 2002
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Ok....give me your discriptions of the guards.
CLOSED
OPEN
SPIDER
etc......
I want to make sure I am doing them correctly
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Karateka_latino
Black Belt
Joined: 21 Jun 2001
Posts: 1299
Location: Panama city, Panama
Styles: Goju-Ryu Karate do; Kung Fu.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2002 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Close guard, your ankles are crossed on the back of your oponent and your arms around his neck and you squeez it against your body. Defensive guard to wear down.
Open guard. you have your feet on the oponents hips and your arms holding the sleeve or collar of his gi, for control and you can plan your attacks, armbars, chokes and sweep. Most of the guard techniques can be performed in this position.
Spider Guard, one foot on your oponents Hip, the other foot on your oponents biceps, both hands holding the sleeve of his Gi. Control your stand up oponent trying to pass your guard, Lots of attacks can be performed as well.
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three60roundhouse
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Joined: 10 Jan 2002
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| Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2002 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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The spider guard can also be done with both your feet on your opponents biceps, or one on the bicep, the opther hooked under the inner thighs.
There are four safe places for the feet when you have your opponent in the guard: crossed around his back(closed), on his hips (no specific name), hooked underneath his thighs (sitting this is called "butterfly guard", standing it is "open with hooks in"), on his biceps (spider guard). It is good to experiment with different combinations: one foot hooked and one on the hip, one on the hip and one on the bicep, etc. etc.
Another newer and less common guard is the "Dela Riva" guard. Your left foor is snaked behind and through his right leg, left leg on his hip. I will post a pic is I later find it.
Most submissions are performed from the closed guard. Sweeps are from the open guard. The closed guard is good defensively to subdue an opponent, the open guard is harder to maintain and considered more "aggressive" because it is intended mostly to sweep your opponent.
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Karateka_latino
Black Belt
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| Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2002 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| hey! Thanks good info. lol |
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K4j4 S1n1s
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Joined: 03 Jun 2002
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| Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2002 6:55 am Post subject: |
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Hello
There are only two guards - open and closed. Everything else is a variation.
One that nobody has mentioned is the triangle guard. This is a very tight position that is only possible for those with longish legs against those with smallish waists but if you get it it is very difficult to pass. Just imagine a triangle choke but around the waist.
Does the half guard count as a guard? It is not a position I would choose from the bottom but it does happen a lot. I've been working submissions from there recently both from the top and the bottom.
We also work the far open guard. This is nothing more than one person standing and one on the their back. Even if the person standing is 10m away, if they cannot get around your legs then they are still technically in your guard. This is where we work "stand up in base" and other things like how to kick without losing position.
Yes.... they sure do 
K4JA
[ This Message was edited by: K4j4 S1n1s on 2002-08-03 09:01 ] |
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three60roundhouse
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| Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2002 9:51 am Post subject: |
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Yes.....half guard....the person in the guard has one of his legs trapped in a figure four by the bottom person....it's pretty hard to pass, but the person on top has a few limited submission oppurtunities. I don't like being on the bottom of this position, it makes me uncomfortable, so I see it is a gateway to the open guard...usually I end up here when someone is mounted on me and I am trying to elbow escape out.
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jiu-jitsu fighter
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Joined: 02 Jan 2003
Posts: 606
Styles: praying mantis, ninjutsu, BJJ,Blauer
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| Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2003 11:35 am Post subject: |
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closed guard , open guard, spider guard, butterfly guard
different reasons for using each of them, depends on the situation, good luck
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jiu-jitsu fighter
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Joined: 02 Jan 2003
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Styles: praying mantis, ninjutsu, BJJ,Blauer
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| Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2003 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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closed guard, used to control your opponent
open guard , when your about to use a technique
butterfly, this is the position where i do alot of sweeps
spider guard, different way of controlling your opponent, you can attack from this position also, and make your opponent work hard,
the spider guard is great, learn it
good luck
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metamorph
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2003 5:50 am Post subject: |
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Ok, I copied the parts I agreed with from other ppl so I didn't have to type as much and then added some.
Closed guard, your ankles are crossed on the back of your opponent and your arms around his neck and you squeez it against your body. Defensive guard to ppl wear down.
Open guard. you have your feet on the oponents hips and your arms holding the sleeve or collar of his gi, for control and you can plan your attacks, armbars, chokes and sweep. Most of the guard techniques can be performed in this position.
Spider Guard, one foot on your opponents Hip, the other foot on your oponents biceps, both hands holding the sleeve of his Gi. different way of controlling your opponent, you can attack from this position also, and make your opponent work hard
The Spider Guard can also be done with both your feet on your opponents biceps, or one on the bicep, the opther hooked under the inner thighs.
Butterfly guard, shins on their inner thighs, user mainly for sweeps
Half Guard, there are several types of half guard. you can cross your feet, figure four your legs and hook his leg with your foot (not very smart), and you can bring the outside leg inside to act as a hook (that's what i do). if he stands up, you can also grab his near leg and sit on your * while feeding his far sleeve between his legs.
Dela Riva Guard, Your left foot is snaked behind and through his right leg, left leg on his hip. Used for sweeps
Rubber guard, one leg as if in open guard the other leg high in their armpit and across their back with you holding on to that ankle. used for kickass submissions because of how you can use your legs
Roleta half guard, Can't explain well so I will post a pic
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metamorph
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on the post.
