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ESA-Shotokan
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 Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:56 am Post subject: Ji'in kata |
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I was obviously asleep or the such when this happened, but I have read elsewhere that the kata Ji'in is no longer recognised by the JKA and that this has been the case for some, four years now!
Does anybody else know more about that?
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Sho-ju
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Styles: Karate, judo and jujitsu.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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| I've never heard that. Maybe email them, it's still listed on JKA sites and in JKA books. |
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equaninimus
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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Since when? And which "JKA"?
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aefibird
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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I hadn't heard that. As far as I know it is still recognised as a Shotokan kata, including with the JKA (in all its various forms!).
ESA-Shotokan, where did you read that info?
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ESA-Shotokan
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 5:33 pm Post subject: Ji'in |
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Sensei Sugiura officially announced that this was no longer a recognised JKA kata around 4 years ago. At the Crystal Palace course in August, Sensei Ueki told students taking 4th Dan to pick another kata when they announced Ji'in.
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Karateka
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2004 10:40 am Post subject: |
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he may have wanted them to do a more difficult kata. I am not sure about this one. The problem I see with that is that it is on the WKF's Kata list, and it says that Shotokan recognizes it. I don't know...maybe things have changed.
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Kumite988
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Joined: 03 Aug 2003
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Location: U.S.A
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 7:26 pm Post subject: Re: Ji'in |
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| ESA-Shotokan wrote: |
students taking 4th Dan to pick another kata when they announced Ji'in.
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Wait...they did Jiin for a 4th Dan test...? Strange. I assume Ji'in. Is the same as Jiin. This is odd because we test Jiin for 2nd Kyu. This is shito-ryu... |
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equaninimus
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Shito also has 40-60 katas, compared to Shoto's 26.
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G95champ
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Location: Gilbert WV, USA
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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Kenneth Funakoshi still does it but under the spelling of Giin. Same kata. The JKA don't do a few now from what I hear such as Wankan, and Meiyko.
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G95champ
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry I hit post to soon lol
Reasons for this vary but this one makes sense to me. The JKA goes by the Best karate books written by (sp) Nakiyamia. However he died before writting the book on Giin, Wankan, and Meyiko. So they have stopped doing them because those books are basically their guidlines.
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