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Shotokan_Fighter
Green Belt
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
Posts: 393
Location: Huron,SD
Styles: Shotokan Karate 4 life
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i dont think kata is a waste of time. kata isnt a waste of time if you really know what kata is. i know what kata is and i like it there may be ppl who dont but those ppl might not understand what kata really is.
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evil_xerox
White Belt
Joined: 05 Jun 2003
Posts: 8
Location: Bunbury,WA, Australia
Styles: Goju-Ryu, [Ex-Shotokan]
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| Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2003 10:30 am Post subject: Importance of Kata |
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I beleive that Kata is very important, from the small portion of this topic I have read most of your views and they are very technique oriented but there is a large portion of mental training in Kata. Kata helps you to focus your mind and slowly embed your techniques into your mind so they become intuition and insticnt based. Also Kata is a form of meditation especially Katas like Sanchin in Goju. Kata is essential for any practitioner of Karate to progress and develop. If you were to just practice Kihon(basics) than you may not develop a good posture and flow for that technique. Kata contains many flowing combinations which you could work on to develop your personal skills. You could pratice you Kihon and Kumite continuosly but did you see a Master become a master without Kata.
I practice my Kata regularly and find that it does focus my mind I also find it good to go through and find things wrong with my technique that I might not want to be doing in a fight.. although I wouldn't want to have to use Karate in a fight ever.
I just hope that you see Kata as something as important as I do.
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BudoKaiMéxico
Yellow Belt
Joined: 26 Jun 2003
Posts: 40
Styles: Shito Ryu
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| Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2003 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Hi!
Love it or hate it! this is a lot of people says, but i think is much more than this.
Karate is a research of your own life.
If u have not an answer in kata may be u aren´t training properly.
The kata was designed to improve every one of your capacities (the mentals too)
If u try another time and another and another but with a predisposition to have a bad attitude about the kata u never will obtain this u r looking for.
But, if u really open ur mind & train with a real wish of improve then u can obtain a great surprise.
Many people says I only need 1 year of this art to defeat a 6 year Karate Ka. This people r not a real Martial Artist, may be he can defeat me in a fight but this is not because he is better Martial Artist than me (may be a better fighter) but u wanna be a better person or a better fighter?
Patience, humility and a lot of sweat.
Ilich miguel Torres Fong
2nd Dan BB Shito Kai
Central America & Caribbean Confederation (WKF - PKF Zone) Kumite Judge
Monterrey, México 
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evil_xerox
White Belt
Joined: 05 Jun 2003
Posts: 8
Location: Bunbury,WA, Australia
Styles: Goju-Ryu, [Ex-Shotokan]
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Bows
I think what you say is very true. I have a saying.. "Be Better that yourself But Know You Are No Better Than Anybody Else". I am training for two goals.. one is to win in tounraments and be "the best" but that is purely for motivation and for a friendly competetive nature, the other is to be better than myself and develop to a higher level than that which I am now.
Karate is about discovering yourself through your commitment and dedication.
Thankyou BudoKaiMéxico for making the simple point that I had forgotten.
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evil_xerox
White Belt
Joined: 05 Jun 2003
Posts: 8
Location: Bunbury,WA, Australia
Styles: Goju-Ryu, [Ex-Shotokan]
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Bows
I think what you say is very true. I have a saying.. "Be Better that yourself But Know You Are No Better Than Anybody Else". I am training for two goals.. one is to win in tounraments and be "the best" but that is purely for motivation and for a friendly competetive nature, the other is to be better than myself and develop to a higher level than that which I am now.
Karate is about discovering yourself through your commitment and dedication.
Thankyou BudoKaiMéxico for making the simple point that I had forgotten.
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kotegashiNeo
Blue Belt
Joined: 23 Dec 2003
Posts: 342
Location: Barrie Ontario Canada
Styles: goju/ Aikido
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Wow alot of opinions the only thing I can is add is that kata is a beautiful expression of a culture that very few understand or except
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Black Belt
Joined: 22 Jan 2003
Posts: 1904
Location: Australia
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| i dont think kata is a waste of time. kata isnt a waste of time if you really know what kata is. i know what kata is and i like it there may be ppl who dont but those ppl might not understand what kata really is. |
 Dont take this the wrong way, but that is one of the most un-educted things i have ever heard.   |
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equaninimus
Purple Belt
Joined: 31 Dec 2003
Posts: 562
Styles: Seibukan, Shotokan, Wado Ryu
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"un-educted?" Quack?
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cross
Black Belt
Joined: 22 Jan 2003
Posts: 1904
Location: Australia
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| Wha??? |
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Ripper
Orange Belt
Joined: 03 Jan 2004
Posts: 150
Location: Netherlands
Styles: Shotokan
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| Shotokan_Fighter wrote: |
| i know what kata is and i like it there may be ppl who dont but those ppl might not understand what kata really is. |
Please, please, enlighten us with your wisdom and tell us what kata is.
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