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equaninimus
Purple Belt
Joined: 31 Dec 2003
Posts: 562
Styles: Seibukan, Shotokan, Wado Ryu
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Interesting. Very different from the Hayashi-Ha Shito Ryu katas I'm familiar with. Niseishi reminds me a lot of the Wado Niseishi.
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Goju1
Blue Belt
Joined: 04 Jul 2003
Posts: 266
Location: Coronado CA
Styles: IOGKF Goju Ryu
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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Yes Natural, as others have mentioned, Saifa may be done differently by different organizations. You should really be asking your Sensei and not us 
The worst thing you could do would be to learn a Saifa kata, perform the heck out of it, and not pass your test because you didn't do it right! |
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Natural
Blue Belt
Joined: 25 Jan 2004
Posts: 287
Location: Purley,Surrey,England
Styles: Renzokenkai-do, Taikyoku-ken
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 10:12 am Post subject: |
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I don't lkie styles that change the old katas its just not right, I herd in holland they change alot.
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xianzhong
White Belt
Joined: 23 Jan 2004
Posts: 19
Location: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
Styles: everything
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 2:06 am Post subject: asdf |
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well I just don't like when people change it only for performance reasons...but if you notice, each school, style, and person does their katas differently. Even in Okinawa, every school performs their katas different one way or the other. Of course, most are usually very slight differences, but when you compare it with the bunkai they seem more diverse.
Now I'm just wondering, how many people here perform the pre-war version of the kata saifa? with the jump in between the front kicks, and with the leg up instead of the cat stance, and also front kicking with the heel instead of the ball of the foot?
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Dragonias
Yellow Belt
Joined: 22 Jun 2003
Posts: 42
Location: London
Styles: Goju, Shotokan
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| Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 8:57 am Post subject: |
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one thing i was taught was learn the kata and then add urself to the kata if this makes sense, ie,certain elemts to the kata u can customize to suit u aslong as they are still with the kata, ie, in saifa in the last few moves, u are grabbing sumone by the head and bringing it towards u and snapping there neck, sum like to this fast, sum like to do it slow, i vary my speed in this i bring it in fast and then imagine resistance from the nck as it snapps in my hands so i use my own tention to bring this through, u might not understand what i mean or u might but hey just another lil thing i thought id say
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kotegashiNeo
Blue Belt
Joined: 23 Dec 2003
Posts: 342
Location: Barrie Ontario Canada
Styles: goju/ Aikido
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| Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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The Judokan way of doing that closely resembles the pre-war version
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