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Anzie
Yellow Belt
Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Posts: 79
Location: Oslo, Norway, Europe.
Styles: Shootfigthing
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2003 2:42 pm Post subject: Royce Gracie at the street? |
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This is just something that has been in my mind for a bit... Sorry to you who do not like Royce Gracie, because this post concerns him and him only. I was just wondering if anyone know if he is capable of defending himself in a street-assault?
Now don't get me wrong, I know he is great in one versus one combat, and he is great at escaping locks and such (I have his and Charles' book).
But I doubt Royce is so stupid that he'd take a streetfight to the ground unless he would break the arm of the opponent in a matter of seconds. Especially if he was surrounded by two people. Does anyone know?
Thanks! _________________ Grappling enthusiast!
Shootfighting as well. |
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TJS
Black Belt
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Posts: 1843
Styles: boxing, Thai boxing, BJJ,
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2003 2:47 pm Post subject: well |
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Royce Gracie would beat 99.9% of the people out there that are not trained fighters regardless of where the fight took place..
Against an untrained fighter he could proabably secure a break or choke in a matter of seconds...
Even if he did not want to take it to the ground Royce has trained in striking for 7 years now so he would not be a fish out of water by any means.
besides...everyone knows who Royce Gracie is.no one would ever attack him |
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Kyle-san
Brown Belt
Joined: 09 Sep 2002
Posts: 735
Location: Brandon, Manitoba
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2003 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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I'd have to agree that assualting Royce Gracie is one of the stupidest things possible, he knows well enough how not to be caught by multiple opponents in a fight and has picked up some striking over the years. _________________ <Currently out of practice> |
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1ONEfighting
Orange Belt
Joined: 11 Apr 2003
Posts: 206
Location: Lawrence Kansas
Styles: A pinch of this, a dash of that.
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2003 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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I'd rather pizz on a pitbull than pizz off Royce. _________________ Trainwreck Tiemeyer
wishes he was R. Lee Ermey. |
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Neil
Orange Belt
Joined: 03 Dec 2002
Posts: 176
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 2:12 am Post subject: |
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After the fight with Mike Tyson biting his opponants ear off Royce Gracie challenged Mike to a fight since his art includes lots of biting and pinching. Mike Tyson and thw whole company didn't even give him a reply. Not even a no. They s*** them selves. |
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kenpo4life
Blue Belt
Joined: 14 Oct 2002
Posts: 279
Location: Hayward, Ca
Styles: Kenpo
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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They didnt shite themselves, they said why fight for chump change, when I can keep getting millions? _________________ If my survival means your total destruction, then so be it. |
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Wado Guy
Orange Belt
Joined: 04 Aug 2002
Posts: 101
Location: TN
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2003 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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I had the pleasure of meeting Royce while attending one of his seminars. Very nice man. Funny too.
During the seminar, he showed that he definitely has stand up jujitsu skills as well as obvious ground dominance. My guess is that Mr. Gracie would make a very formidable opponent to anyone attempting to attack him in the street.
Concerning multiple attackers, his odds would be just as good as anybody else's given he uses his stand up skills.
*heehehe* It seems odd to me to mention the words "striking" and "Gracie" in the same sentence, but, rest assured, they do have striking ability. |
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SevenStar
Black Belt
Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Posts: 2631
Location: TN
Styles: bjj, judo, shuai chiao, muay thai
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2003 9:51 am Post subject: |
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yeah, he's definitely got standup grappling skills. I've met him also - matter factly he's at my school right now and was also there yesterday, but I'm unable to make this seminar. He has a self defense book out that has some pretty good stuff in it. |
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karate_woman
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 11 Apr 2003
Posts: 863
Location: Ontario Canada
Styles: Kickboxing,Okinawan Goju Ryu Karate, Judo, JuJitsu,T'ai Chi, QiGong
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2003 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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Excerpt from an interview with Royce Gracie. Apparently people ARE crazy enough to challenge him In the dojo, anyway. http://www.sherdog.com/interviews/roycegracie/gracieinterview_04.shtm
Brett Herman: Do a lot of fighters and wrestlers come to the Academy in Torrance and make challenge matches?
Royce Gracie: That comes in waves. Sometimes, they come in and show up, maybe 3 or 4 in a month but then they disappear for 8 months until somebody wants to come in and try out whether it's one way or the other, I haven't had any for the last 6 months or so. _________________ The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step.
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Treebranch
Black Belt
Joined: 21 Mar 2003
Posts: 2279
Location: Glendale, California USA
Styles: Budo Taijutsu, Boxing,Lars Wallin BJJ, Machado Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Kung Fu San Soo, Lima Lama, Taekwondo
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No doubt Gracie is a great fighter, he's an incredible BJJ fighter. The fact of the matter is that no one is invincible, and he has lost in the ring just like many other great fighters. Logic will tell you if he lost in the ring, what makes people think he might not lose on the street as well. The difference being you can't tap out on the street, if the guy is a killer. There are guys out there that are so tough and mental messed up that there is no predicting the outcome. People on the streets have weapons, let's take guns out this equation. Some guy I knew in college told me a story about the indians in El Salvador that had to resort to a life of crime to survive. They pick pocket and mug people, they work in teams. They also carry a razor blade in their mouth to cut you with if you resist them, if you chase them they chew it and spit it at your face. My point is no one can make that claim, I especially don't think Gracie would make the claim that he could beat anyone on the street in the street. _________________ "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who
are willing to endure pain with patience."
"Lock em out or Knock em out" |
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