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yireses
Orange Belt
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Posts: 146
Location: Puerto Rico
Styles: Shaolin Chuan Fa {Kung Fu}
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 Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2003 6:34 pm Post subject: Same Honor today then yesterday? |
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Is there the same Honor today then yesterday in Martial Artist? Has it changed? In what? But first. Whats honor? How the you define honor.
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Drunken Monkey
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Joined: 10 Apr 2002
Posts: 3559
Location: bar italia
Styles: white chocolate profiteroles and natas....
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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2003 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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it is different these days.
today, we go to a school and pay and expect to get taught.
in the past, you would go to a school ask to be accepted and pray and if you are accepted, are expected to learn.
it's a very subtle difference but it's an important one.
these days if a student doesn't learn much he probably will blame the teacher. in the old days if you didn't learn much it was probably because you were lazy. the old chinese way was that when you join a school, it becomes your family. you actually lived at the school and took part in the running of the school. all of the titles (sifu, sihing etc are family terms). even when you have left the school he is still your sifu and they are still your brothers.
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IAMA_chick
Purple Belt
Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Posts: 515
Location: Indiana
Styles: tae kwon do
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| Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2003 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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i dunna what you mean by honor today and yesterday and tommorow. i live in america and it is not like you pray to be accepted and stuff. it is modern now and people have to pay the lease on a school and stuff.
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ah^gao
Yellow Belt
Joined: 17 May 2003
Posts: 79
Location: Singapore
Styles: Southern Shaolin
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Treebranch
Black Belt
Joined: 21 Mar 2003
Posts: 2279
Location: Glendale, California USA
Styles: Budo Taijutsu, Boxing,Lars Wallin BJJ, Machado Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Kung Fu San Soo, Lima Lama, Taekwondo
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ah^gao well said brother. Modern people want it everything fast. Things that take time must not be good, is the Modern philosphy. Honor is dead.
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Drunken Monkey
Black Belt
Joined: 10 Apr 2002
Posts: 3559
Location: bar italia
Styles: white chocolate profiteroles and natas....
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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well, like the advert says
good things come to those who waits.
in our wing chun, the first thing we do is punch. week after week we punch. after about three weeks a lot of people will have gone. that 's when we start something else...
well, slight exaggeration but you get what i mean.
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SandanPJ
Orange Belt
Joined: 09 Mar 2003
Posts: 179
Styles: Kenpo and Jiujitsu
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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There is more phoney crap out their today. In the past it would have never happened, other schools would have stood up to it. The Martial Arts in general has a mystic to it, and I think it always will. Combat is as old as time, so I don't see it being a trend.
But Blackbelt is a joke in today's society. Anyone can get one, and few can back theirs up. |
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Drunken Monkey
Black Belt
Joined: 10 Apr 2002
Posts: 3559
Location: bar italia
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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wow, imagine if it were like china in the old days, "kick door" all over the place!
sure would weed out the crap though.
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pvwingchun
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Joined: 30 May 2003
Posts: 172
Location: Prescott Valley, AZ
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From the ground up
Only 3 weeks when I started I did the very first drill we learn for a month. LOL.
Sifu would say work this and I will be back later to check on you. Twenty minutes later you would get a correction. After about a month give or take a week you got the second drill. But then one translation of kung fu means is hard work. Now we have students who after 2 minutes think they have got it and are ready for Chum Kiu.
There is a little more give and take now in hopes of student retention, in the end they still get the same amount of training but it is broke up differently. There is a big difference between paying the bills and training in a garage and simply passing on the art. |
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Drunken Monkey
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and they never bother to find out what sil nim tao means...
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