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Joined: 22 Nov 2001
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Location: Birmingham, England
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2002 3:56 pm Post subject: Weight lifting and loosing weight? |
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i noticed that one of the members in this forum suggested that weight lifting helps you loose weight, this point intrigued me and wondered if any of the members here could explain to how much this is actually is true
because to my understanding weight lifiting doesnt help you build muscle
but i am sure that there will be people who will disagree _________________ Brown Sash Hsing I/Lau Gar Kung Fu
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Tobias_Reece
Brown Belt
Joined: 26 May 2001
Posts: 691
Location: Leeds, England
Styles: Matayoshi Okinawawn Kobudo, Shotokan Karate
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2002 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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I always thought that it is very difficult (if not impossible) to lose weight AND gain muscle.
Can't remember why (biology is not my strong point), but I think it was the constant drilling in by ALL the mens magazines I purchase (I like them because it tells me how to improve my love life hee hee)
Ciao _________________ "You Are Never Given A Dream Without Also Being Given The Power To Make It True. You May Have To Work For It, However"
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West Yorkshire Kobudo Academy
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BlackI
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Joined: 05 Aug 2002
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2002 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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You can lose weight and gain muscle at the same time. If you burn enough fat and you put on some muscle you can do it at the same time.
I think KickChick will chime on this, she tends to have very good tips espeacially about fitness _________________ In search of the Temple of Light |
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KickChick
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2002 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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I guess you can include me as one of those members who may have suggested that ad ....
True, by lifting weights and performing resistance exercises .... you build muscle mass. The more muscle mass you have the higher your metabolism and the more calories you will use to perform your daily activities. The higher metabolism enables you to burn "body fat" more efficiently.... therefore, enabling you to lose weight. Theoretically, you may in fact weigh the same if not more (that is why I don't believe in weight scales) ... but you will have a lower percentage of body fat and your body will be proportionately sculpted and leaner. |
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Radok
Brown Belt
Joined: 23 Apr 2002
Posts: 601
Location: Florida
Styles: Okinawan Shorin-ryu Karate-do
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2002 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: Weight lifting and loosing weight? |
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to my understanding weight lifiting doesnt help you build muscle
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What the heck do you think body builders do to get so buff? Run? of course it makes you build muscle! _________________ If you can't laugh at yourself, there's no point. No point in what, you might ask? there's just no point.
Many people seem to take Karate to get a Black Belt, rather than getting a Black Belt to learn Karate. |
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Joined: 22 Nov 2001
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Location: Birmingham, England
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2002 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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whoa , my bad, i didnt mean to say that weight lifting doesnt help you to produce muscle, of course it does, i meant to say that to my understanding weight lifting doesnt help u to loose weight,
but to my recent explanation from kickchick, how helpful she is, my views are now changing, its just that im finding near impossible to loose weight! _________________ Brown Sash Hsing I/Lau Gar Kung Fu
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G95champ
Black Belt
Joined: 29 Mar 2002
Posts: 3116
Location: Gilbert WV, USA
Styles: Shotokan Karate (FSKA)
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2002 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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It don't happen. When you lift you build muscle. Muscle is much more heavy than fat. So you may look slimmer but you will gain weight on the scales. _________________ (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory." |
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Jack
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Joined: 22 Jun 2001
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Location: England
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Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2002 12:07 am Post subject: |
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Beginners can lose fat and gain muscle at the same time, due to the complete shock to the system. After a short period of time however, it becomes impossible and one must eat and train according to their goal - to gain muscle you must eat a caloric excess, to lose fat one must eat a caloric deficit. Both cannot be done at the same time. With lifting weights and gaining a little muscle, you are going to a gain a little fat - which is why then later you go on a seperate "diet" called "Cutting" by Bodybuilders to lose the fat whilst maintaining as much muscle as possible.
And yes, muscle needs fuel, and will use fat for this fuel if needed. _________________ Jack
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Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2002 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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i dont want to majorly pump up and be like proper heavy, but i just want to do the weights so that my body is generall]y tighter, so that i can loose some fat, and just tone up, surley but not heavily overdoing the weights, and the burning of the fat, i should loose weight instead of gaining it _________________ Brown Sash Hsing I/Lau Gar Kung Fu
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Jack
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Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2002 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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Tighter muscles will come with heavy strength training. Toning is simply a state of having muscle with little fat to cover it, so losing fat and toning up are the same goal really. Lift, do cardio, and eat to lose weight and you will reach your goals. _________________ Jack
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