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Alan Armstrong
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:18 am    Post subject: Action is quicker than reaction Reply with quote

Action is quicker than reaction, do you use this concept in your area of expertise as a martial artist?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Action is quicker than reaction Reply with quote

Alan Armstrong wrote:
Action is quicker than reaction, do you use this concept in your area of expertise as a martial artist?


Depends on the context and what you are describing.

If you are referring to being on the offense, yes you have the advantage because they have to react to your technique. By the time the signal travels to the brain and is sent back the defender is at a disadvantage as far as time.

If you are speaking of what some call Mushin (no mind) where as the body reacts without thought. This is an advantage.

Please clarify what you mean by action and in what context are you referring to?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MatsuShinshii wrote:
Alan Armstrong wrote:
Action is quicker than reaction, do you use this concept in your area of expertise as a martial artist?


Depends on the context and what you are describing.

If you are referring to being on the offense, yes you have the advantage because they have to react to your technique. By the time the signal travels to the brain and is sent back the defender is at a disadvantage as far as time.

If you are speaking of what some call Mushin (no mind) where as the body reacts without thought. This is an advantage.

Please clarify what you mean by action and in what context are you referring to?
Training clip from the movie "Warriors Two"

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UbsvxEA1OM8

Even though it is just a movie clip, it does illustrate the concept of action is quicker than reaction; with the student trying to catch a leaf dropped by the master.

As Bruce Lee played with this concept with feints or telegraphing false information to his opponents; or just relying on superior speed.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cWj-zU8koes

Instilling some uncertainty in the opponent can be enough to make them more hesitant to apply techniques confidently, thus slowing them down or making them overreact or over reach.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that the reaction has to meet, and/or exceed, the proposed action!! If not, then all of the reaction time is meaningless and void.

Imho!!



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sensei8 wrote:
I believe that the reaction has to meet, and/or exceed, the proposed action!! If not, then all of the reaction time is meaningless and void.

Imho!!


Rather than just having a reaction, perhaps meeting the action with an appropriate adaptation is preferable?
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