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aznkarateboi
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pcam16
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Joined: 02 Jun 2003
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Location: UK
Styles: Shotokan karate
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I can do one now but it hurts my knees!
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Looneyas
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Joined: 13 Feb 2003
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Location: Cairns Australia
Styles: Taekwondo
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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A Areial Cartwheel is a GYMANSTIC Move not a Karate Move
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pcam16
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 10:19 am Post subject: |
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actually an aerial cartwheel is used in many martial arts not just gymnastics!
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SBN Doug
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Joined: 04 Nov 2001
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Location: Houston, TX
Styles: Kuk Sool Won
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Ours isn't taught as a kick. It's supposed to be used to evade an attack at the lower legs while putting distance between you and the attacker.
I believe it was mainly used to evade staff, sword, and spear strikes at the knees/ankles.
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Looneyas
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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Sheeeesh
A Aerial Cartwheel is Gymnastic move pure and simple, I did 15 Years as a Gymnast then i moved onto Taekwondo.
TKD took the move off Gymnastics.
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Shorinryu Sensei
Black Belt
Joined: 13 Jun 2002
Posts: 2045
Location: Kalispell, Montana
Styles: Shorinryu Matsumura Kenpo (Seito/Orthodox) Karate and Kobudo
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Stop and think about the technique for a moment pcam16. Think about your balance. Forget the crap you see in 99% of the movies where you see moves like this aerial.
I don't know how long you've been involved in the arts, but if even for a few monbths, can you HONESTLY ever see a REAL APPLICATION of that aerial in a combat situation? One that won't get you killed
IMHO if you do, then you're watching WAY to much TV and the crap they portray as "martial arts", and believing that yes, people can jump 30 feet in the air, walk on water, fight 25 guys at once..blah blah blah!
Do you believe the stuff in the movie "Hidden Tire, Crouching Dragon"? Walking onb tree branches/water, floating/flying through the air?
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stl_karateka
Brown Belt
Joined: 18 Sep 2003
Posts: 645
Location: O'fallon IL
Styles: Shorin Ryu & Isshin Ryu
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Rather an aerial is a martial arts move depends on your definition of an MA move....
Any capoeristas in here? I believe in capoeria it is called an au (ah-yoo) or estrella and it is used to get away from an opponent and still keep your eyes on them --- why not just back away --- cause that particular application is relying on momentum and continuous movement.
I've also seen it used effectively 2x in point sparring --- and while the point was earned and get some 'ooohs and ahhs' from the audience I think its too risky in that instance.
In creative forms they are used all the time....when you can see a clear kick then I'd say it is a martial arts move....or even if it is followed by a block or some kind of combo.
Otherwise --- its gymnastics.
That's my 2 cents anyway!
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iolair
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Joined: 11 Jan 2003
Posts: 310
Location: Asturias, Espaņa
Styles: Kickboxing, Ju Jitsu
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Fighting 25 guys at once is EASY - anyone can learn to do it.
Surviving the experience, now THAT'S hard 
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