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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just wondering weither anyone knows anything about Aikido and Chinese martial arts?
I have seen some books published about it. But as this is the chinese martial arts section I was wondering what chinese arts could have effected Aikido. As O Sensei (Morihei Ueshiba) went to China. And it has been said that he fort against many opponents there. But there was never any doumentation of what happpen between them.
I was thinking that I could have been effected by White Crane, Hsing I, Pa Gua and Tai Chi.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sensei Ueshiba studied Baguazhang for some time, which is a basis for Aikido. I believe he studied Gong Ting and Jiu Long, one made for bodyguards, the other for imperial soldiers. Aikido bears a striking resemblance to the Nei Chia/Nei Kung, the internal arts of China.

Taijiquan (Tai Chi Chuan)

Baguazhang (Pa Kua Chang)

Xingyiquan (Hsing I Chuan)

Maybe ChangWuJi can elaborate on this a bit.

Prof. Chang? Your input?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2002 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is kind of off topic, but Is ki emphasized a lot in aikido? Like when you throw your opponent, do you also use ki or is it just a small part of aikido?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2002 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is all Ki. The basis idea is the mosts of Jujutsu (Daito Ryu), with a large Ki (chi) element. My style of Aikido, Ki Aikido as the name my suggest has a considerable amount of ki exercises designed to focus it through ones oppents.

-: do you have a name? Just a digretion.

yes I also believe that O Sensei was quite clearly influenced by the internal arts. But also but the Japense Samuari arts.

So what Chinese arts do you peple study. I have a great deal of resepct for them. Many of my friends study them and they are great to train and spar with.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2002 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I study some Shuai Chiao. Greeat for striking and grappling both, and fun, too.

Btw, yes, I have a real name. But a rose by any other name is still fragrant, no?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2002 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea i know

But your log in name is not really a name. Its sort of lines.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2002 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On other forums, I'm Frying Mantis (I'm infamous on shaolinwolf.com). But I decided : - ) - : would be cool for a change.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you mind then if I call you frying?

So how long have you been studying Aikido?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Studying for 11 years now. And yeah, you can call me Frying or anything you want. On shaolinwolf.com, they call me everything from Small Fry to Frying Ant *. All in good fun, though.

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