Bubishi

Bl4cKtH0rN · Yellow Belt

Oss friends! I am now researching Bubishi ( the ancestral book of Karate), and it would like to change ideas, websites, and-books and maybe to create a research group. Thank you, oss!!

Jussi Häkkinen · Purple Belt

I have some news for you: Drop the "oss" or "osu" and you'll give us a better impression. I know it's a nice gung-ho -alike grunt, but it really does not belong to anywhere else but to your own dojo - and most likely not even there.

Read this: http://www.24fightingchickens.com/mu/osu/index.html and rethink your "osu":ing a bit.

When it comes to a study group about Bubishi, try this: http://www.society.webcentral.com.au/

It's the translator's website where you can join to be a member of his group. If Bubishi is your thing, I guess it's for you.

However, I'd recommend a 4. kyu to stick to the curriculum and create a strong base in his chosen art before spreading too wide.
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Jussi Häkkinen
Okinawan Shorin-Ryu Seibukan Karate-Do (Kyan Chotoku lineage)
Turku
Finland

Shorinryu Sensei · Black Belt

I agree with Jussi Häkkinen. You should have plenty to learn at your level from what your sensei is teaching you, without worring about the bubishi.

I have George Alexander's translation of it, and until I learn how to read Chinese, it's making a good paperweight!

Darce · Blue Belt

Jussi Häkkinen · Purple Belt

Well, "oss" in Japan is a grunt - a positive, "DUDE!" -type of a grunt - used in male sports clubs and other similar activity groups. It is a rude word to be used in everyday life and among the people you don't know. Women very rarely use this expression.

It doesn't, however, mean anything particularily perverse or negative itself. Its use is limited by nature - and should stay as such.

I don't feel that an internet community - be it about martial arts or not - is a good place for "osu!":ing each other. Although the user may found other martial artists as a bunch of lads he wants to be friends with, others may very well not feel so.

I have been addressed with "OSU!" in real life by a rather well known, internationally respected sensei (from an other style than the one I do study) and couldn't help thinking that "he should know better". In other words, I did feel mildly insulted - I had came for his open seminar to learn things and to study seriously. I didn't know him - and he obviously did not know the etiquette behind "osu":ing.
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Jussi Häkkinen
Okinawan Shorin-Ryu Seibukan Karate-Do (Kyan Chotoku lineage)
Turku
Finland

Darce · Blue Belt

But I always bow and say "oss" when I enter the dojo, and on a camp i was on we had to say oss to the sensei to show that we understood what he was teaching. Is it something wrong with that?
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Shukokai Karate, Orange belt ( 7. kyu)

Jussi Häkkinen · Purple Belt

If it is an accepted way in your style and in your group, there's nothing wrong with it. However, in open seminars (where are people from many styles or you don't know the teacher personally), it's more safe to just plainly bow when entering a room, without saying anything. When you've been corrected, say "hai!" ("yes") clearly, then in beginning and in end rituals you may use following phrases:

In beginning (when bowing to each other - otagai ni rei): Onegaeshimasu!
In the end (when bowing to each other - otagai ni rei): Arigatoo gosaimasu!
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Jussi Häkkinen
Okinawan Shorin-Ryu Seibukan Karate-Do (Kyan Chotoku lineage)
Turku
Finland

Darce · Blue Belt

Yeah, every time we bow and such we say oss. Maybe it´s only in my style.
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Shukokai Karate, Orange belt ( 7. kyu)

Bl4cKtH0rN · Yellow Belt

Hehehe, well, you make a mistake, I am a researcher of martial arts

, but thank you for the "oss" teachings.

Darce · Blue Belt

Who made a mistake? Me?
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Shukokai Karate, Orange belt ( 7. kyu)

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