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Goju1
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Joined: 04 Jul 2003
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Location: Coronado CA
Styles: IOGKF Goju Ryu

PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 10:10 am    Post subject: Do you have to be approved by Japanese for Black Belt? Reply with quote

Just got curious from another thread - before we get our full black belt, (as opposed to probationary) we have to apply to a Japanese Karate Federation, submitted with pictures, recommendation from our Sensei, etc... Is this common?
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G95champ
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Joined: 29 Mar 2002
Posts: 3116
Location: Gilbert WV, USA
Styles: Shotokan Karate (FSKA)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah depending on the association you are with.
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Pacificshore
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Joined: 26 Mar 2002
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Location: West Coast
Styles: Chinese Kenpo/Kara-Ho Kempo

PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know that when I trained in Shotokan, our club was and still is associated with Nishiyama Sensei, and when it came time to test for our BB, we had to go to the main dojo in Los Angeles. Even prior to the test, it was highly recommended that you attend their BB classes.
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karatekid1975
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Joined: 26 Mar 2002
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Location: Upstate NY
Styles: Tang Soo Do/TKD/jujitsu

PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we go through the GM for our BB's, which in turn goes through the WTF in Korea. I'm not sure how it works yet.
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Sasori_Te
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Joined: 15 Aug 2003
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Location: Near Akron Ohio
Styles: Kempo and Kobudo

PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My good friend in Shito Ryu had to apply for his black belt like that. I believe he also had to make at least 6 trips to the main dojo before he could be recommended. However, I totally disagree with this policy if your instructor holds a master ranking 4th dan and above. If the main dojo feels that they were deserving of their rank then they should be allowed to promote their own students to within one grade of themselves. Actually, I feel this way about any instructor that is given express permission to teach on their own. Sorry, I got off the topic. *S*
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kempocos
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Joined: 12 Aug 2003
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Styles: RYUKYU KEMPO,MODERN ARNIS, ISSHINRYU,

PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NO since I study an OKINAWAN style.
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karatekid1975
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good post, Sasori_Te. I think my instructor, who is a 5th dan, does the testing. But I think the certs come from Korea and/or the GM.
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karate_woman
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Joined: 11 Apr 2003
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Location: Ontario Canada
Styles: Kickboxing,Okinawan Goju Ryu Karate, Judo, JuJitsu,T'ai Chi, QiGong

PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on the organization. We get a certificate from Okinawa, though the testing is done by an approved person in Canada.
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karatekid1975
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep it on topic, folks. Opinions are welcome, but flame wars aren't
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SaiFightsMS
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Styles: Shotokan, Shorin Ryu, Shi-to Ryu

PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bit of pruning of inappropriate comments has been done here.
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