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aznkarateboi
Brown Belt
Joined: 30 Mar 2003
Posts: 627
Styles: shaolin gung fu southern style
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 Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 8:37 pm Post subject: examples of karate groundfighting? |
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| anyone here have an example of one of those karate groundfighting techniques that can finish off an opponent? also are there any articles or clips on the topic? |
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Jussi Häkkinen
Purple Belt
Joined: 28 Aug 2003
Posts: 507
Location: Turku, Finland
Styles: Okinawan Shorin-Ryu Seibukan Karate-Do
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Finish off an opponent? Well...
Striking your fist to his face.
Striking your hand to his throat.
Striking your elbow to his face - or throat.
Kicking your knee to his face.
Kicking your knee to his groin.
Using a jointlock.
Choking the begeezus out of him.
Anything else that works.
It really isn't that complicated. And yes, it still is karate.
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Ti
Blue Belt
Joined: 21 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 2:22 am Post subject: |
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You forgot about biting.  |
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Jussi Häkkinen
Purple Belt
Joined: 28 Aug 2003
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Location: Turku, Finland
Styles: Okinawan Shorin-Ryu Seibukan Karate-Do
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| Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 3:27 am Post subject: |
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I didn't forget it. But it's fighting, not lovemaking. 
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Sho-ju
Red Belt
Joined: 25 May 2003
Posts: 774
Location: Canada
Styles: Karate, judo and jujitsu.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 9:24 am Post subject: Re: examples of karate groundfighting? |
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| aznkarateboi wrote: |
| anyone here have an example of one of those karate groundfighting techniques that can finish off an opponent? also are there any articles or clips on the topic? |
Karate has grappling but I would say it doesn't contain ground fighting. All the grappling is done from standing. The Okinawans did folk wrestling... |
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shotochem
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 29 Dec 2001
Posts: 901
Location: New York
Styles: Shotokan, Kempo, BJJ, Baby-Do-Jitsu
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| Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:17 am Post subject: |
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Try doing Tekki 1 while laying on your back you will find it quite interesting.
There are many move which can be applied on the ground as well as on your feet. 
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hajime
Orange Belt
Joined: 22 Oct 2003
Posts: 138
Location: Nr London
Styles: Wado-Ryu Karate
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My instructors told me when you get your opponent on the ground from certain stances then a kick to the groin lifts up the head (when they are on their back) and then you stamp them on their face.
you can repeat this as for as long as you want 
It depends though, as if you have a nice wrist grab on and spin them heavily to the floor and preferably into an object such as a wall/car.
They may not be too keen on carrying on 
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cross
Black Belt
Joined: 22 Jan 2003
Posts: 1904
Location: Australia
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| Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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I have a video on my pc that demonstrates bunkai which includes some throws and ground fighting.
Most of the throws are ones that make the person land on there back or head so its hard for them to break fall.
Also the ground fighting is very basic, e.g pinning the arms etc.
In general most karate techniques are more effective standing up. But dont limit there applications because with some imagination they can work great on the ground of from any position. |
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CsrCrz88
Yellow Belt
Joined: 18 Oct 2003
Posts: 93
Location: Boston
Styles: Shaolin Kenpo Karate
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| i'm not a grappling type but learning... i'll do any thing like Jussi Häkkinen said. |
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aefibird
Black Belt
Joined: 26 Oct 2003
Posts: 4416
Location: UK
Styles: Past and present: 2 styles of Karate, TKD, Aikido, Wing Chun, some Tai Chi
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| Ti wrote: |
| You forgot about biting. |
That reminds me of a true story my sensei once told me about his first ever karate kumite competition. He was a white belt at the time and was paired against a 4th kyu. My sensei's sensei had told him to really 'go for it' and not be frightened, just because he was a white belt and in his first fight. Well, my sensei did 'go for it' - to such an extent he ended up biting his opponent!!
When he first told me I thought he was joking, but I've since come to know someone who trained with my sensei and he's verified the story.
'The Bite' certainly won't be found in "The Beginners Guide to Karate", but it's a pretty good technique, nevertheless!!
Almost as good as 'the stomp on the foot', 'the eye-poke' and 'the kick to the knee' in terms of suprise and effectiveness!!
Not recommended for competitions, though... 
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