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cymry
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Location: Wales, Great Britain
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 Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 11:26 am Post subject: Habitual Acts of Physical Violence |
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I thought this would make an interesting thread. To anyone who doesn't know, HAPV was a phrase coined by the famous Patrick McCarthy, to describe common techniques used in physical attacks.
Someone choose a HAPV and we'll discuss it for a while. I'll start... Person A pushes Person B, Person B responds with a right roundhouse punch to the head. |
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Kirves
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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| One common HAPV is to take the victim's head into a "headlock" or "necklock". |
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Ben
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Location: Mansfield, Notts, UK.
Styles: Hap Ki Do
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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Ahhhh... good example there, Kirves 
Option 1: Most of the time, you can see a fight coming... usually with a move like a push or a grab... pressure points and joint locks are a good self defense method against these to put yourself in control.
Option 2: Usually from a choke or a headlock, they leave their groin fairly wide open to a strike. This is probably the method I would chose first, while having a hand on their arm or wrist. After striking, the grip is almost certain to loosen up leaving an opertunity to use a joint lock... failing that maybe a strike to the throat and a quick take down ...
Then run! cant be hurt if you're not around!
I'd rather run and maybe have someone think I'm a "whimp" rather than staying there and s/he finds a weapon to use! |
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TJS
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Joined: 27 Jan 2003
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Styles: boxing, Thai boxing, BJJ,
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| HEadlocks..kids do it on playgrounds and adults do it in bar fights... |
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1ONEfighting
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Joined: 11 Apr 2003
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Location: Lawrence Kansas
Styles: A pinch of this, a dash of that.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 12:09 am Post subject: |
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| TJS wrote: |
| HEadlocks..kids do it on playgrounds and adults do it in bar fights... |
Yeah, but do they do it RIGHT? Just because it's easy doesn't mean it doesn't work.
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Kirves
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:34 am Post subject: |
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| 1ONEfighting wrote: |
| Yeah, but do they do it RIGHT? Just because it's easy doesn't mean it doesn't work. |
"Right" according to which specific style of martial art? 
True, few untrained people punch, kick or wrestle "correctly", yet they often manage to do lots of pain and damage when they want to. |
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Kirves
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:37 am Post subject: Re: Habitual Acts of Physical Violence |
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| cymry wrote: |
| Person A pushes Person B, Person B responds with a right roundhouse punch to the head. |
If person A has enough forward directed aggression going on, he will push B again before the punch of B lands, then he gets doubly p*ss*d off at B for trying to punch him and he charges at B, making them both fall onto the ground and then they wrestle like two kindergarten-kids.  |
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Treebranch
Black Belt
Joined: 21 Mar 2003
Posts: 2279
Location: Glendale, California USA
Styles: Budo Taijutsu, Boxing,Lars Wallin BJJ, Machado Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Kung Fu San Soo, Lima Lama, Taekwondo
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm, a familiar image.
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