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G95champ
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Location: Gilbert WV, USA
Styles: Shotokan Karate (FSKA)
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O BTW
Heian means Peaceful Mind
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isshinryu kid
Yellow Belt
Joined: 11 Feb 2003
Posts: 56
Location: Knoxville tennessee u.s.a
Styles: isshinryu karate
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| Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2003 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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The Pinan kata, moves are continuis,The heian is one of the most stagnate katas,I've ever seen. PS Thats My Opinion I could be wrong.  |
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SaiFightsMS
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Location: Ohio
Styles: Shotokan, Shorin Ryu, Shi-to Ryu
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| Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2003 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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| It all depends on how they are done. Many people learn a kata on counts in the kyu grades and only later do without counts allowing the kata to flow. They are the same katas just a different name because of the language difference that used to exist between the RyuKyu Islands. |
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G95champ
Black Belt
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Location: Gilbert WV, USA
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| Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2003 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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I think they flow pretty good but I agree with Sai that the fact we teach on counts gives them a robot look until the student starts to understand the kata.
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Afro.Fighter.
White Belt
Joined: 23 Feb 2003
Posts: 21
Location: Tennessee
Styles: Wado Ryu Karate Do
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| Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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I think they call it Kusanku but I could be wrong.
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You're right, As far as I know, In Wado, Kushanku is one of the longest katas we have and it is basically just a mixture of all the Pinan katas. But Kushanku was created before the Pinans so perhaps the latter are just a breaking up of Kushanku into smaller seperate patterns.
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isshinryu kid
Yellow Belt
Joined: 11 Feb 2003
Posts: 56
Location: Knoxville tennessee u.s.a
Styles: isshinryu karate
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| Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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I Certainly dont want anyone,Angry or upset about what I said.I Just like the the flow & continuis movements of kata.  |
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SaiFightsMS
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| Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Afro.Fighter you are correct in that kanku/kushanku holds the origin of the pinan/heian katas. It was Itosu who broke them down. He was a teacher and bringing karate into the school system. Before that the new students learned the naihanchi katas. He thought they were too difficult for the students of the younger age he was beginning to teach.
It is also interesting that it was Itosu who broke the kata Nahanchi into three parts or three separate katas. It was at one time all one kata. |
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