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angel
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 1:49 am    Post subject: In class terminolog, Jap or Eng. Reply with quote

As i see no some of us use English Names for skills and some of us use Japanese.

Like:

Gedan Barai ------ Lower Block
Ashi Barai --------- Foot Sweep
etc.

Which ones do u use and which do you think should be used
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Jussi Häkkinen
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Japanese usually. Although, in beginner's classes, I often use a Finnish explanation alongside the Japanese term. We have seminars with foreign instructors quite often, so Japanese terminology will become useful.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Japanese pronucniation English
Age Empi ah-geh en-pee rising elbow strike
Age uke ah-geh oo kay rising block
budo boo-do martial ays
choku zuki cho-koo-zoo-kay straight punch
chudan chew-dahnn chest area
dachi dah-chee stance
dan dahn black belt-grade level
do dough the way of
dojo dough-joe trainning hall
empi en-pee Elbow
Empi uchi en-pee-oo-chee elbow strike
gedan geh dahn lower body area
gedan barai geh-dahn baa-rah ee donwward block
Geri ger rhee KICK
gi ghee karate suit
gohon kumite go-hon-koo me teh five step sparring
gayaku gya koo Reverse
gayaku zuki gya koo zoo kay reverse punch
hachiji dachi hah chee gee dah chee open leg stance
Haito hi-toe ridge hand
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Sasori_Te
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends. If you are studying a classical style or a style that is headed by someone from Japan or Okinawa, or if your instructor would like you to then teach the Japanese pronunciations. If not use your native language.
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major_motoko
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we have a mixed belt class Sensei will say the techniques in Japanese then followed in English. That's so the lower belts can learn the meanings.
When it's a higher belt training session however, all Japanese is used for techniques and we are expected to know what it means. When (only occasionally ) we all stare blankly at Sensei, he'll be nice and remind us of the English meaning. (Sometimes it's the other way round too )

I personally think it's really good to use the Japanese words, it adds a bit more depth to my training. I love Japanese culture anyway, so learning new words is interesting.

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karate_woman
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have students of all levels practicing together, so in class we'll often hear the Okinawan followed by the English, though sometimes just the Okinawan. In our Black Belt grading the instructions for the basics were given out in Okinawan.

I'm not really passionate about saying things in Okinawan vs English, though some people are. I've read a few web sites by people who speak Japanese or Okinawan who find the common pronunciation in martial arts classes to be appalling, so I can take it or leave it. Our Sensei's Sensei goes to Okinawa to train every couple of years, so I believe the pronunciation is fairly accurate in our school, though.
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Goju1
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both - as you progress into the higher classes, you are expected to know most in Japanese. We have frequent Senseis from Japan who don't speak English so we need a translator or better know it ourselves
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G95champ
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use as much Jap. in class that I can however its not a big deal IMO. Because I always have to say it in Eng. as well. LOL.
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CheekyMusician
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think both Japanese and your native language should be used.

Using your native language makes it easier for beginners and makes it easier to know what to do if you don't understand the Japanese, but using Japanese means that no matter where you train you'd be capable of understanding what technique to perform.

Its like musicians using Italian terms, so that any musician from any country can pick up a piece of music and understand the performance directions without it needing to be translated.
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angel
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See this is the point. I train in Ankara ,Turkey. And i also am very interested in Oriental culture. We never learn the Turkish meanings. We always do them in Japanese. But that is interesting. But sometimes the sensei do some exams to try and see if we can figure out the meanings.
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